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<div>I am in agreement that the default position should be that ICANN seek an OFAC license for any entity that seeks to contract with it. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">However, I believe that some discretionary out must be preserved for the extremely rare instance in which the entity seeking to become a contracted party was one with which ICANN did not wish to have even the appearance of endorsement,
even though the ultimate decision was in the hands of the US Treasury. </div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature">I would permit such a discretionary decision not to seek the license subject to:</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"> Board formally endorses decision.</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"> Decision is publicly posted along with explanatory rationale. </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"> Empowered community can override decision. </div>
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On Aug 7, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks, Jeff, for putting some focus back into the subgroup.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I agree with your suggestion, we learned enough from the interaction with Sam/ICANN legal to know:
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ICANN could be required to seek a license<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The community could formally push to gain a general license for registrar and registry services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 7, 2017 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>>; Benedicto Fonseca Filho <<a href="mailto:benedicto.fonseca@itamaraty.gov.br">benedicto.fonseca@itamaraty.gov.br</a>>; Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>;
Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>; ws2-jurisdiction <<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>>; Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>>; Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Some interesting points from the OFAC Call [WAS RES: WRITTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE CALL]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Is someone able to document the questions that were not answered during the teleconference? I was on the teleconference, which was great, and I am not sure what still needs
to be answered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Also, it seems like we have lost some sight of the main points raised during the call.
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<h4 style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">”</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> 4. Application Process.<o:p></o:p></span></i></h4>
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<i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Applicant acknowledges that ICANN must comply with all U.S. laws, rules, and regulations. One such set of regulations is the economic and trade sanctions program administered by the Office of
Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") of the U.S. Department of the Treasury. These sanctions have been imposed on certain countries, as well as individuals and entities that appear on OFAC's List of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons (the "SDN List"). ICANN is
prohibited from providing most goods or services to residents of sanctioned countries or their governmental entities or to SDNs without an applicable U.S. government authorization or exemption. ICANN generally will not seek a license to provide goods or services
to an individual or entity on the SDN List. In the past, when ICANN has been requested to provide services to individuals or entities that are not SDNs, but are residents of sanctioned countries, ICANN has sought and been granted licenses as required.
</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:red">However, Applicant acknowledges that ICANN is under no obligations to seek such licenses and, in any given case, OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license</span></i><i><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">.”
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">…………………<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Although the language states that ICANN does not have to seek licenses for residents of sanctioned countries, they generally do. I would like to see that last paragraph state in writing that they
are required to seek a license, but acknowledge that OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license. This would ensure that we could have registries and/or registrars in these countries able to at least apply to become accredited.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The second point that was interesting was that ICANN seeks licenses for all changes to the root zone if initiated by entities or residents in the OFAC sanctioned countries. It would be helpful to know the
terms (and limits) of those licenses (from an accountability standpoint). Are there certain changes that cannot be made without additional licenses, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol>
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">Thanks again for the information on last weeks call and I look forward to discussing the substance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mueller, Milton L<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 7, 2017 7:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benedicto Fonseca Filho <<a href="mailto:benedicto.fonseca@itamaraty.gov.br">benedicto.fonseca@itamaraty.gov.br</a>>; Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>; Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>;
ws2-jurisdiction <<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>>; Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>>; Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: WRITTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE CALL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The question I would ask you, Benedicto, and all others suggesting a rather elaborate documentation process, is this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Would you rather this WG develops a final report, or spend most of its remaining time documenting the results of a conference call, the transcript of which is
readily available? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If you choose the latter, are you then going to complain that we did not finish our work?
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<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Benedicto Fonseca Filho<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>>; Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>>; ws2-jurisdiction <<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">acct-staff@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net">thomas@rickert.net</a>>; Samantha Eisner <<a href="mailto:Samantha.Eisner@icann.org">Samantha.Eisner@icann.org</a>>; Bernard Turcotte <<a href="mailto:turcotte.bernard@gmail.com">turcotte.bernard@gmail.com</a>>;
Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <<a href="mailto:leonfelipe@sanchez.mx">leonfelipe@sanchez.mx</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: WRITTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE CALL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Dear all,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Let me endorse Kavouss' request - also supported by Seun and Jorge - that answers be provided in written form, with whatever disclaimer
might be necessary to ensure they are not in the form of any official legal advice or the like.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Judging from the last call's transcript, not all questions formulated upon the rapporteur´s invitation were systematically covered
during the call, so it is only fair to have the unanswered questions also addressed, preferably in written form. I'd also reiterate the views expressed by others: for the sake of clarity and to allow and promote further participation, it would be necessary
to have also in written form (even if succinct) the answers to the questions that were supposedly covered during last call as the transcript does not allow to clearly correlate each question to each comment/answer.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Further, several questions were asked during last call, some of which may have been questions that were only asked at that time.
It seems that none of them had to pass the test of consensus either to be asked or to be answered. So it would be unfair now to ask for support for certain questions to be asked and then answered, particularly those questions that were only asked following
the rapporteur's invitation in the mailing list.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Finally, I believe that no one would ever feel their views are systematically disregarded if their requests or suggestions were subjected
to the same test that is applied to other´s proposals…</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Best regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Benedicto </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org</a>] em nome de Kavouss Arasteh [<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Enviado:</b> quinta-feira, 3 de agosto de 2017 13:48<br>
<b>Para:</b> Greg Shatan; ws2-jurisdiction; <a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org">
acct-staff@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert; Samantha Eisner; Bernard Turcotte; Jordan Carter; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía<br>
<b>Assunto:</b> Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] WRITTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE CALL</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Greg</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">I do not understand what you are talking ABOUT</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Samantha, during her presentation, three times emphasized that if we had questions we could raise them with her. Read the Transcript.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Two of these three times she referred to me.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Pls do not be so formalistic. Let us do our work.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">pls do not complain to anyone about me as it would have negative IMPACT . This issue is important.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Then I was formally invited to raise my questions with her, pls read transcript after I was so invited.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">What do you want to prove? We are not to be treated like student</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We should be respected. The tone of your message is offensive even though you have used diplomatic offensive language .That does not work</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">We are part of a group and must understand each other’s problems </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">What you stated is quasi preventing me to speak freely?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Why there is prohibition to reply to the invitation that she launched to us and to me? Why I should not address my question to ICANN STAFF? She does not work for you. She is working
for ICANN and we are all part of ICANN i replied to Sam’s invitation that is all.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Why I need the approval of the group in which over represented by those that do not wish that I talk at all ?</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Cheers
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request and decide whether to ask for written responses to questions (and if so, which questions). Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Kavouss Arasteh <<a href="mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com" target="_blank">kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear Sam, With tks to your presentation, pls kindly note that I nned written answers to the questions raised before the meeting and those during the meeing either as intervention or in the chat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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