<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ICANN RAA says it is under "no obligation" to seek an OFAC license (see below)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68)">With ICANN stating that it is under no obligation to apply for OFAC license for applicants residing in sanctioned countries, ICANN provides a way for jurisdiction to interfere with providing domain name services. Why, given its commitment to global interoperability of the DNS, should it be discretionary for ICANN to apply for an OFAC license?</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Solution: (as was suggested by Jeff, Mike, IGP and others) </font></b><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Currently, the RAA states that: </font></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><h4 style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i>”</i><i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"> 4. Application Process.</span></i><u></u><u></u></font></h4><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)">…..</span></i><u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)">Applicant acknowledges that ICANN must comply with all U.S. laws, rules, and regulations. One such set of regulations is the economic and trade sanctions program administered by the Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") of the U.S. Department of the Treasury. These sanctions have been imposed on certain countries, as well as individuals and entities that appear on OFAC's List of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons (the "SDN List"). ICANN is prohibited from providing most goods or services to residents of sanctioned countries or their governmental entities or to SDNs without an applicable U.S. government authorization or exemption. ICANN generally will not seek a license to provide goods or services to an individual or entity on the SDN List. In the past, when ICANN has been requested to provide services to individuals or entities that are not SDNs, but are residents of sanctioned countries, ICANN has sought and been granted licenses as required. </span></i><i><span style="color:red">However, Applicant acknowledges that ICANN is under no obligations to seek such licenses and, in any given case, OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license</span></i><i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)">.” [Emphasis Added]</span></i><u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)">…………………</span><u></u><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51)"></span></font></p><div class="gmail_default" style="display:inline"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">The red part should be changed to require ICANN to applying for an OFAC license. with the clarification that OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license. </font></div><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><u></u></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></p><div class="gmail_default" style=""><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, Arial"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-6898375082504419736WordSection1"><span class="gmail-"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-jurisdiction-<wbr>bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>farzaneh badii<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 7, 2017 4:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:acct-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">acct-staff@icann.org</a>; Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>>; ws2-jurisdiction <<a href="mailto:ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a>><br></span><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Some interesting points from the OFAC Call [WAS RES: WRITTEN ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE CALL]<u></u><u></u></p><div><div class="gmail-h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I also agree with Jeff and Mike. IGP had proposed this change back in January and we hope it happens.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">One more issue that we discussed during the meeting was about the uncertainty regarding the application of OFAC to non US-based registrars. Some registrars not based in the US might want to avoid risk and not provide services for sanctioned countries because of their contract with ICANN. I think we should follow up on this issue and solve it by just clarifying ( as Steve asked and Sam confirmed ) "that contracted parties are not obligated to follow OFAC solely on the basis of their having a contract with ICANN".<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Jeff's proposal that ICANN be required to make a good faith application for OFAC license whenever it is necessary to fulfill the purpose of registry and/or registrar agreements. And I support his 2d question, requesting details. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Note that OFAC doesn't just hamper registries and registrars located or formed in sanctioned countries, but also registries and registrars with officers, directors or significant shareholders from any of the sanctioned countries (regardless where the business is located or formed). Note further that OFAC licenses are time-limited, requiring periodic reapplication. And ICANN legal has told me that they were not required to seek an OFAC license for my client, even though that client had executed registry agreements with ICANN. I disputed that, and they got the license; but there is no guarantee they will seek it again when it expires, even though the registries are live. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I can't see any good reason why ICANN should not be required at least to make a good faith effort to get a license. It seems at least to be implied in the registry agreement anyway, via the covenant of good faith and fair dealing inherent in every contract (at least under California law). If ICANN refused to seek a license, it would frustrate the purpose of the entire agreement.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Mike Rodenbaugh<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">RODENBAUGH LAW<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">tel/fax: <a href="tel:(415)%20738-8087" target="_blank">+1.415.738.8087</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><a href="http://rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">http://rodenbaugh.com</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Jeff Neuman <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank">jeff.neuman@comlaude.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a name="m_-6898375082504419736_m_2667933718837453360_m_-415388232259168">All,</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is someone able to document the questions that were not answered during the teleconference? I was on the teleconference, which was great, and I am not sure what still needs to be answered.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Also, it seems like we have lost some sight of the main points raised during the call. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><ol start="1" type="1"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">One of the main points I got on the call was that the language found on the Registrar Accreditation page of the ICANN site states: <u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><h4 style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;background:white"><i><span style="font-size:11pt">”</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> 4. Application Process.</span></i><u></u><u></u></h4><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">…..</span></i><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Applicant acknowledges that ICANN must comply with all U.S. laws, rules, and regulations. One such set of regulations is the economic and trade sanctions program administered by the Office of Foreign Assets Control ("OFAC") of the U.S. Department of the Treasury. These sanctions have been imposed on certain countries, as well as individuals and entities that appear on OFAC's List of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons (the "SDN List"). ICANN is prohibited from providing most goods or services to residents of sanctioned countries or their governmental entities or to SDNs without an applicable U.S. government authorization or exemption. ICANN generally will not seek a license to provide goods or services to an individual or entity on the SDN List. In the past, when ICANN has been requested to provide services to individuals or entities that are not SDNs, but are residents of sanctioned countries, ICANN has sought and been granted licenses as required. </span></i><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:red">However, Applicant acknowledges that ICANN is under no obligations to seek such licenses and, in any given case, OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license</span></i><i><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">.” [Emphasis Added]</span></i><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">…………………</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Although the language states that ICANN does not have to seek licenses for residents of sanctioned countries, they generally do. I would like to see that last paragraph state in writing that they are required to seek a license, but acknowledge that OFAC could decide not to issue a requested license. This would ensure that we could have registries and/or registrars in these countries able to at least apply to become accredited.</span><u></u><u></u></p><ol start="2" type="1"><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);margin-left:0in;background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">The second point that was interesting was that ICANN seeks licenses for all changes to the root zone if initiated by entities or residents in the OFAC sanctioned countries. It would be helpful to know the terms (and limits) of those licenses (from an accountability standpoint). Are there certain changes that cannot be made without additional licenses, etc.</span><u></u><u></u></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Thanks again for the information on last weeks call and I look forward to discussing the substance.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/application-2012-02-25-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>resources/pages/application-<wbr>2012-02-25-en</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(15,147,71)">Jeffrey J. 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