<div dir="auto">I read Progress in this thread!!!<br><br>Thanks<br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 21, 2017 4:55 AM, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">It appears to me that creation of a general license involves a regulatory process, which is in the purview of the executive branch (more specifically, the U.S. Treasury, of which OFAC is a part). Indeed, 31 CFR § 595.305 defines a general license as “any license or authorization the terms of which are set forth in this part.” In other words, the general license is a part of the OFAC regulations. General licenses apply to classes of persons and types of transactions.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">By contrast, a specific license is sought through an application to OFAC and the license is issued by OFAC. Individual licenses are party-specific and transaction-specific.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="elided-text">On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Mueller, Milton L <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="elided-text">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">It’s not clear to me that a general license requires legislation. It might be something that the executive branch can do. Also, while getting recognition for a general license might take time, once it was done
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<p class="MsoNormal">However lengthy the OFAC license application process, I am quite confident that seeking a legislative immunity solution in the US would be even lengthier
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<b>Subject:</b> [Ws2-jurisdiction] [Issue and Solution] Seeking an OFAC License process<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Seeking an OFAC license has been reported to be lengthy and not very transparent. Also as Mr. Rodenbaugh explained below, OFAC licenses are time-limited and require a periodic application.
It can hamper registries/registrars businesses.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> ICANN has reportedly been untransparent about the application of OFAC license process. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">Solution: ICANN should commit to apply for an OFAC license and be transparent about the application process and its actions with regards to application. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As to the lengthy nature of the process, perhaps attempting to receive a general OFAC license for ICANN functions would be a solution for all this. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Mike Rodenbaugh <<a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com" target="_blank">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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of registry and/or registrar agreements. And I support his 2d question, requesting details. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">Note that OFAC doesn't just hamper registries and registrars located or formed in sanctioned countries, but also registries and registrars with officers,
directors or significant shareholders from any of the sanctioned countries (regardless where the business is located or formed). Note further that OFAC licenses are time-limited, requiring periodic reapplication. And ICANN legal has told me that they were
not required to seek an OFAC license for my client, even though that client had executed registry agreements with ICANN. I disputed that, and they got the license; but there is no guarantee they will seek it again when it expires, even though the registries
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#500050">I can't see any good reason why ICANN should not be required at least to make a good faith effort to get a license. It seems at least to be implied
in the registry agreement anyway, via the covenant of good faith and fair dealing inherent in every contract (at least under California law). If ICANN refused to seek a license, it would frustrate the purpose of the entire agreement.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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