<div dir="ltr">Dear all<div><br><div>1: I think registrars can set their business policies as they see fit. If they do not respect applicable law to the conduct of their business, ultimately that is their problem. ICANN should provide objective information to them, especially regarding sanctions regime. I understand that the difference between legal advice and objective information is a thin line to walk. In that sense, I believe that the current language of the recommendation better reflects that. I would not oppose referring to the media reports, although I find the formulation a bit vague and so I am not strongly in favour of adding it either.</div><div><br></div><div>2: For the same reasons as above, I am not in favour of seeing this added. Registrars are free to pursue their business as they see fit within the framework given by the law. And ultimately, to me, this is not a jurisdiction issue. It has been discussed that this could be discriminatory; maybe ICANN should do something about it, and certainly it can/could/should be discussed, but I do not think it has its place in the current recommendation. </div><div><br></div><div>3: I do not understand what the blue text adds, and to some extent what it means. Is someone undermining ICANN's awareness-rising processes? Besides, I am fine with the red text. </div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-26 8:52 GMT+02:00 Greg Shatan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">All,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Please take a few minutes to <b>read and respond</b> to this email, and the <b>proposed changes</b> discussed here, so that we can finalize the OFAC
Recommendation and send it to the Plenary.
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">There are three remaining proposed changes as far as I
can tell. These changes are below. <b>Please indicate whether you support adding any of proposed changes 1, 2 and/or 3 to the OFAC Recommendation. </b><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">To make it easy, please respond along the lines of “I [support/do
not support] adding change 1” or “I would support change 1 with the following
revisions.” If you think it would help
others, please explain your conclusion.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">In addition to the changes, I have attached two documents:<span></span></span></p>
</div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div class="gmail_default"><p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">A draft of the OFAC Recommendation that incorporates
the proposed changes suggested by Kavouss.
Where unclear, I placed a change where it seemed most likely intended to
be.<span></span></span></p></div><div class="gmail_default"><p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Symbol;color:black">·<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">A document with virtually all of the emails
devoted to these proposed changes, arranged chronologically by topic.<span></span></span></p></div></blockquote><div class="gmail_default">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.25in;line-height:normal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">The proposed changes suggested by Kavouss are
as follows:<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 22.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">The first proposed change appears intended to
be added to the Issue and Recommendation “Application of OFAC Limitations by
Non-US Registrars.” The first part
reads:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><b><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__30j0zll"></a><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__1fob9te"></a><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">There are several reports in the media that US-Based and Non-US
registrars have asked registrants to transfer out their domains immediately
because they might get affected by US sanctions.<span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Examples of that are
related to Godaddy</b><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftnref1" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:23"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:23">[1]</ins></span></span></ins></span></span></a><b>
and Online Nic,</b><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftnref2" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:23"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:23">[2]</ins></span></span></ins></span></span></a><b>
which made pressure against registrants having citizenship of Sanction
countries.</b><span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 22.5pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Kavouss asked that the second part be
inserted into the corresponding Recommendation:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Registrars should be reminded that they
should not normally examine zero risk policy in regard of penalties imposed by
OFAC.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="margin:0in 0in 6pt 22.3pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:windowtext"><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">2.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman";font-size:7pt;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"> </span><span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">
</font></span></span><span style="color:black"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">The second proposed change relates to an
action taken by Resello, a Dutch registrar.
It’s also unclear where this would go (it does not seem to fit in the
section “Application of OFAC Limitations by Non-US Registrars.”) Perhaps it would go into a new section,
possibly entitled “</font></span><span style="color:windowtext"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Policy
of not Doing Business with Iranian Customers/Resellers (Unconnected to
OFAC/Sanctions) by a Non-US Registrar”:<span style="font-size:12pt;font-size:12pt"></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>An individual domain
Name Iranian National reseller residing outside Iran sent a request to <<a href="mailto:sales@resello.com" target="_blank">sales@resello.com</a>> in an online
form, asking to become reseller of Domain Name in Iran (to sell domains to
Iranian people).<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>He received
the following reply:<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Quote<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>“On Tue, Sep 19,
2017 at 9:48 PM, Resello Sales <<a href="mailto:sales@resello.com" target="_blank">sales@resello.com</a>> wrote:<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Dear reseller
(XXX)<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Unfortunately
our policy restricts doing business with Iranian customers/resellers, even if
they aren't living in Iran, but have an Iranian passport.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Kind regards,<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Mark Assenberg”<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>It is worth
mentioning that Resello is a subsidiary company for following holding:<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Yourholding<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>Ceintuurbaan 28<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoNormalCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>8024 AA Zwolle<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>+31 38 453
0752<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>The name is
Yourholding and they are based in Netherlands. So they are not US-Based
company.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>They do not
want to explain why they don't want to provide service to Iranian. They say,
they is our internal policy decision.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>It is
important to make it clear that none of Registrars and service providers which
are not US Nationals or not based in USA cannot make internal policies to avoid
giving services to a given citizens.
This is a global business not a personal decision of a company or its managers.
They must fully observe the expected behaviour and responses.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>It is
important to emphasize that non-US based companies should not to replicate the
rules inside USA.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><b><i><span style="color:black">[Recommendation]</span></i><span style="color:black"><span></span></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>The group in
attempting to address the case mentioned above thought that the above situation
might have been arised as result of misinterpretation of applicability of OFAC
Regulation to the case.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>The Group
concluded that there was no relation between the case and OFAC Regulation and
its applicability.<span></span></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)"><b>The Group also
did not find any provision in RAA to obligate the Resello to get into a
business with the domain name reseller to provide the requested domain name did
not find also any provision in the RAA to allow the registrar to reject / deny
the request.<a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftnref3" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27">[3]</ins></span></span></ins></span></span></a>
The group therefore considered / recommends that there is a need that ICANN further
examine the matter with a view to address the silent point in the RAA.</b><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraph" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 22.5pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">The third suggested change is intended to change the Recommendation
relating to General Licenses. After
Kavouss suggested several changes (including the language in blue), I added the
red language to reflect Kavouss’s changes in a way that seemed to read better
in the text. After the red language was
added, Kavouss continued to request that the language in blue be added as well.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 0.5in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">ICANN should then pursue
one or more OFAC general licenses <span style="color:red">at the earliest
possible time</span>, unless significant obstacles were discovered in the
“study” process. If there are significant obstacles, ICANN should report them
to the [empowered] community and seek its advice on how to proceed. If unsuccessful, ICANN would need to find
other ways to accomplish the ultimate goal -- enabling transactions between
ICANN and residents of sanctioned countries to be consummated with a minimum of
“friction.” <span style="color:red">It
is critical that ICANN communicate regularly about progress toward securing
general licenses, in order to raise awareness in the ICANN community and with
affected parties.</span> <b> <span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">The role of ICANN, to make awareness about such situation
is critical and should not be undermined.</span></b><span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Finally, there
have been a number of questions asked about each of these suggested changes, which
have largely gone unanswered. I’ve rephrased
and listed them here, since it could be helpful for the Subgroup to consider them
(or see if any members might answer them).
(I am not suggesting these questions need to be answered to evaluate the
proposed changes.)<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">On
suggested change 1</span></u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Do you
have the “reports in the media” referred to in the proposed change?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">If the
Subgroup has not seen the reports in the media, can the Subgroup Report refer
to them, or the activities reported in them?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">For US
registrars, considering that they have to comply with OFAC, is this an issue
for this Subgroup?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">c.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">For non-US
registrars, why isn’t the current text of this section of the OFAC
Recommendation sufficient? (It discusses possible mistaken application of OFAC sanctions by non-US registrars because
they think contracting with ICANN imposes OFAC compliance obligations on them)<i>.</i><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Since GoDaddy and OnlineNIC are both US-based registrars, does it make sense to refer to them?who
are required to comply with OFAC sanctions.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Do you know what </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">“made pressure against” refers
to?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Are
there any example of this “pressure”? With non-US registrars?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:0.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">What does it mean to say “</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">Registrars
should be reminded that they should not normally examine zero risk policy in
regard of penalties imposed by OFAC”?</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">If this
refers to the exercise of business or legal judgment of registrars, do you
believe it is appropriate for the Subgroup Report to comment on this?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 1in;text-align:justify;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">b.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">What
proposed issue does this Recommendation resolve/remediate?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal"><u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">On suggested change 2</span></u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Is this an example of a non-US Registrar complying with OFAC
sanctions?</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black"> Where is the connection to OFAC?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black">What
section of the RAA is being violated by this </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">business decision (i.e.,
a registrar deciding not to do business with citizens of a given country
(whether it is Canada, Haiti, Iran or otherwise))? </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:black"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">If Resello's business decision does not seem to be related to
OFAC, US jurisdiction or to any ICANN-related jurisdiction, does the Subgroup
approve this as an “Issue” or our group to make a Recommendation on? If so, what recommendation?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">4.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Is this possibly an EU sanctions issue (the registrar is Dutch)<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">5.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">If this is possibly an EU sanctions issue, should </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">we get into
interpreting EU sanctions?</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">6.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Why is the current language of the Recommendation insufficient?
It reads:</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 99pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">a.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">"ICANN needs to bring awareness of these issues to
registrars. ICANN should clarify to registrars that the mere existence of their
RAA with ICANN does not cause them to be required to comply with OFAC
sanctions. ICANN should also explore various tools to remind registrars to
understand the applicable laws under which they operate and to accurately
reflect those laws in their customer relationships."</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 67.5pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;border:none"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">7.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">What connection does this have to </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">OFAC sanctions or to
ICANN's "jurisdiction" -- in the US or elsewhere?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin-bottom:6pt;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">On suggested change3:</span></u><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext"><span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">1.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">Why is the language already added to the text (in red)
insufficient?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">2.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">What situation does “make awareness about such situation”
refer to?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;margin:0in 0in 6pt 1in;line-height:normal;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">3.<span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times New Roman"">
</span></span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif;color:windowtext">Is there a concern that something will be “undermined”? What does this refer to?<span></span></span></p>
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<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteText"><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftn1" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[1]</span></span></span></a> NOTE
TO SUBGROUP: GoDaddy is a U.S.-based registrar incorporated in Delaware as
GoDaddy, LLC and headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona.<span></span></p>
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<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteText"><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftn2" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">[2]</span></span></span></a> NOTE
TO SUBGROUP: OnlineNIC is a U.S.-based registrar incorporated in California as
OnlineNIC, Inc. and headquartered in San Leandro, California.<span></span></p>
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<p class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteText"><a name="m_-6966943974514909313__ftn3" title=""><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27">[3]</ins></span></span></ins></span></span></a><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27"> Resello’s “General Terms and Conditions,” for
resellers state in Article 1.1 that “acceptance by Resello … may be refused
without reason.” </ins></span><a href="https://www.resello.com/agreement" target="_blank"><span class="m_-6966943974514909313gmail-msoIns"><ins datetime="2017-09-24T15:27">https://www.resello.com/<wbr>agreement</ins></span></a>
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