<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Jorge,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">These changes were made in my role as rapporteur. A key aspect of the rapporteur role is helping the group find outcomes the group broadly supports. Part of this is avoiding a push to define "common ground" prematurely. In my view as rapporteur, the group is not yet at the point where a "common ground" can be declared, and other options eliminated. You will see that today's agenda includes a discussion of the various options. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am as eager as you are to find common ground, and I thank you for offering your assistance in identifying what you believe to be common ground. However, I believe that it's premature to identify a result at this time. Thus, I edited the text to keep our options open. (I don't believe it's accurate to say I "reverted" the text, since all your suggestions are still in the document, and only a few changes were made by me, to reflect where we stand in our process.) This in no way prevents the group from considering whether the "Menu" option is one where the Subgroup can find common ground. It merely reflects that we have not already done so.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I'm a little puzzled also by your statement that I am "</font><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">intervening in an open discussion within the group taking very specific positions, instead of letting the debate go forward and helping it reaching consensus when needed." </span><font face="verdana, sans-serif">The changes I made were to back the document away from the very specific positions you inserted, in order to keep the debate and discussion open. I'm sorry that was not clear to you.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">In the end, this text needs to be revised to identify a result and a recommendation, unless there is a divergence of opinion (and thus no common ground, although this itself would be a "result"). We can also discuss whether to identify the options we did not adopt and the reasons for doing so, or to take your approach and eliminate them from the document (as you did with the "California" option). I hope we can move through this rapidly, while avoiding hasty conclusions, and arrive at a document that reflects a finding of common ground in the group.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I hope this clarifies matters.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Best regards,</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Greg</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:49 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Greg,<br>
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In the pdf this is not clear.<br>
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Are these changes made in your capacity as rapporteur? or are they personal contributions?<br>
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I guess they are the latter. In such case this should be made clear in order to avoid any misunderstandings.<br>
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I note for the record that I find troublesome that (without making that clear) you are once again intervening in an open discussion within the group taking very specific positions, instead of letting the debate go forward and helping it reaching consensus when needed.<br>
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I cannot speak for Raphaêl of course, bit I wonder why you "revert" to his initial text, which I had suggested to amend aiming at a "common ground" I saw emerging, when Raphaël himself had not done so or had not objected to my suggestions.<br>
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Hence, I would like to see the document distributed without your changes or if you insist to circulate the version you have changed that you clearly identify your edits as your personal opinion.<br>
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best<br>
<span><br>
Jorge<br>
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</span>Datum: 27. September 2017 um 07:40:41 MESZ<br>
An: Cancio Jorge BAKOM <<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a>><br>
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Betreff: Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Updated "Applicable Law and Choice of Venue Provisions" Recommendation<br>
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Jorge,<br>
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Yes. This is reflected in the Google Doc, and if you mouse over the changes in Word.<br>
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Greg<br>
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</span><span>On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:39 AM, <<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch</a><m<wbr>ailto:<a href="mailto:Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin.ch" target="_blank">Jorge.Cancio@bakom.admin<wbr>.ch</a>>> wrote:<br>
Dear Greg,<br>
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The changes in "red ink" are from you?<br>
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Thanks for clarifying.<br>
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regards<br>
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Jorge<br>
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<span>Datum: 27. September 2017 um 07:33:38 MESZ<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_724943725272891058HOEnZb"><div class="gmail-m_724943725272891058h5">Betreff: [Ws2-jurisdiction] Updated "Applicable Law and Choice of Venue Provisions" Recommendation<br>
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All,<br>
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Attached is an updated version of this recommendation in Word and PDF formats, found at <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xAyla8FTaL7jZ0D2rYtAzQUr3gEnirTKiAG-kqD0ZSs/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1xAyla8FTaL7jZ0D2rYtAzQUr<wbr>3gEnirTKiAG-kqD0ZSs/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a> (please make all changes in SUGGEST mode).<br>
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Please review and be prepared to discuss.<br>
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Thank you.<br>
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Greg<br>
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