<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="">Good evening:</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>> <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, sans-serif;" class="">further, other, multistakeholder process of some kind should be considered to allow for further consideration, and potentially resolution, of these concerns.</span><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">I support this outcome for the time being. Thankyou.</font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class="">CW</font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Nov 2017, at 21:43, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" class="">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Good write-up.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Thanks<br class=""><br class=""><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto" class="">Sent from my mobile<br class="">Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 2, 2017 4:36 AM, "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" class="">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution" class=""><blockquote class="quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">Based on the discussions in the Plenary at ICANN 60, the following task was decided: </div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0in;">Jurisdiction second reading of draft recommendations – Approved with 4 objections but certain edits are required. These include the proposed text from Jorge Cancio with respect to continuing the jurisdiction discussions<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; display: inline;">....</div><u class=""></u></li></ul><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; display: inline;">Having reviewed the transcript, including Jorge's intervention, related interventions by others, and Thomas's recapitulation of this point, I have drafted the proposed language below (and also attached) to be added to the Subgroup Report, most likely at the end of the Subgroup Report.</div><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif; display: inline;"><br class=""></div></font></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">I hope that this has captured the spirit of the discussion reasonably well.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;">Greg</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: verdana, sans-serif;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 16.100000381469727px;"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 21.466665267944336px; color: rgb(0, 112, 192);" class="">FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OF JURISDICTION-RELATED CONCERNS<span class=""></span></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 16.100000381469727px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 18.399999618530273px;" class="">There were a number of concerns raised in the Subgroup where the Subgroup had substantive discussions, but did not get to a point of conclusion. As an example, there were discussions of limited or partial immunity for ICANN that did not come to conclusion.<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 16.100000381469727px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 18.399999618530273px;" class="">These concerns were put on the table by different stakeholders, and for these stakeholders, these are legitimate concerns. As these concerns were not discussed to the end, there should be a path forward for these concerns beyond the CCWG-Accountability, which was<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 18.399999618530273px;" class="">tasked to look into a limited number of issues within a limited period of time and with a limited budget.<span class=""></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6pt; line-height: 16.100000381469727px;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 18.399999618530273px;" class="">Therefore, the Subgroup suggests that a further other multistakeholder process of some kind should be considered to allow for further consideration, and potentially resolution, of these concerns. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; line-height: 18.399999618530273px;" class="">We believe that this Report, with its annexes, can be a very useful tool for further debates which will surely take place – whether in another cross-constituency effort or in a future ATRT Review, or in some other ICANN context. The appropriate forum for such discussions is beyond the mandate of the CCWG; however, we encourage the community to build on the work of the Subgroup and prior work in this area. <span class=""></span></span></p></div><br class=""></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> </p></div><br class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class="">Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community@icann.org" class="">Accountability-Cross-<wbr class="">Community@icann.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/accountability-cross-<wbr class="">community</a><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Ws2-jurisdiction mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Ws2-jurisdiction@icann.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-jurisdiction" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ws2-jurisdiction</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>