<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Klaus,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I added  &quot;deemed relevant by ombuds sub group and SO/AC&quot;. Beforehand there was just&quot; deemed relevant&quot; so it wasn&#39;t clear deemed relevant by whom. I don&#39;t think you disagree with that addition, you can add your modification to the document. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I totally agree with your second point and I added a couple of addition to the document to suggest that the ombudsperson should understand ICANN, its community and its structure.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Farzaneh </div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 December 2016 at 03:20, Klaus Stoll <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kdrstoll@gmail.com" target="_blank">kdrstoll@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Dear All</p>
    <p>Looks like we are making progress on this one. Below 2 short
      comments.</p>
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          <li>
            <p style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:115%" align="JUSTIFY"><font face="Calibri, serif"><b>Review Work
                  Method and Criteria</b></font></p>
          </li>
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      <p style="margin-left:0.25in;margin-bottom:0in" align="JUSTIFY"><font face="Calibri, serif">The
          work methods are expected to include the following:</font></p>
      <ul>
        <li>
          <p style="margin-bottom:0in" align="JUSTIFY"><font face="Calibri, serif">One-on-one interviews with
              individuals who are deemed relevant by ombudsman sub group
              and SO/ACs to the examination. <font color="#ff0000"><b>Why
                  are we limiting the interviews to those deemed
                  relevant by Ombudsman sub group and SO/AC? The
                  Assessment should be able to interview everybody it
                  thinks </b></font></font><font color="#ff0000"><b><font face="Calibri, serif">necessary</font></b><b><font face="Calibri, serif"> AND all those deemed relevant
                  by sub group and SO/AC.</font></b></font></p>
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          <p style="margin-bottom:0in" align="JUSTIFY"><font face="Calibri, serif">Consultation with the Community<font color="#990000"> <font color="#ff0000"><b>The
                    relationship to the community is crucial, and this
                    consultation should be better and more clearly
                    defined. As it stands it says nothing and all.</b></font></font></font></p>
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    <p> I think we can not stress enough the need of understanding and
      working with the community and examination of the Ombudspersons
      role and relationship within the whole ICANN community.</p>
    <p>Yours</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
    <p>Klaus<br>
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    <div class="m_-7851493332140322548moz-cite-prefix">On 12/21/2016 5:16 AM, farzaneh badii
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi 
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        <div>Added some comments questions and texts to Seb&#39;s document.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>There are a couple of important things that we should not
          overlook: </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>1. The reviewer has to completely understand ICANN
          structure and process. Basic knoweldge is fine but the
          reviewer has to attend a couple of community meetings and see
          how things work. The reviewer (as someone suggested in the
          doc) should also attend ICANN meeting in Copenhagen.</div>
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        <div>2. one and a half month for the review is simply not enough
          as Seb also pointed out. I believe it should be extended.</div>
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        <div>Thanks </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 20 December 2016 at 14:01, Lars
          Hoffmann <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org" target="_blank">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank
                    you for the very timely turnaround, Sébastien.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">All,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If I
                    may, I would like to encourage those who are using
                    MS Word to add their comments to the file Sébastien
                    just sent (attached to this email). It will make the
                    review easier (and quicker) and assure that you will
                    not submit comments that are identical to those of
                    your colleagues. </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Many
                      thanks and best wishes,</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Lars</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:
                      </span></b><span style="color:black">Sébastien
                      Bachollet &lt;<a href="mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com" target="_blank">sebastien@bachollet.com</a>&gt;</span><span style="font-family:PMingLiU;color:black"><br>
                    </span><b><span style="color:black">Date: </span></b><span style="color:black">Tuesday 20 December 2016 at
                      11:43<br>
                      <b>To: </b>Lars Hoffmann &lt;<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org" target="_blank">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                      <b>Cc: </b>&quot;<a href="mailto:ws2-ombudsman@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-ombudsman@icann.org</a>&quot;
                      &lt;<a href="mailto:ws2-ombudsman@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-ombudsman@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                      <b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: [Ws2-ombudsman]
                      Ombudsman Assessment: RFP Overview</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Lars,</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the draft.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Please find attached with
                          my comments, questions and proposals.</p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal">Ready to answer any
                          question.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">All the best</p>
                      </div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">SeB</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <div><span>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Sébastien Bachollet</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="tel:+33%206%2007%2066%2089%2033" value="+33607668933" target="_blank">+33 6
                              07 66 89 33</a></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Blog: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sebastien.bachollet.fr&amp;d=DgMFAw&amp;c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&amp;r=J4rVei4WZIn6-raGBj5dwYkl2jzyfta0KTxH92lGiro&amp;m=k-gs9i_UX-77NEgRsNGq2pIpi0IjfnrH8dvPYcWuQLw&amp;s=2_jCo89V2UtZmbhOrOdI-RpA-JktgJv5Dt1gliRZGGc&amp;e=" target="_blank">http://sebastien.bacholl<wbr>et.fr[sebastien.bachollet.fr]</a>/</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Mail: <span class="m_-7851493332140322548m_-5647283164400389362apple-style-span"><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Sébastien
                              Bachollet &lt;<a href="mailto:sebastien@bachollet.com" target="_blank">sebastien@bachollet.com</a>&gt;</span></span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">De : </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">&lt;<a href="mailto:ws2-ombudsman-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-ombudsman-bounces@icann.o<wbr>rg</a>&gt;
                        on behalf of Lars Hoffmann &lt;<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org" target="_blank">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Date : </b>lundi 19 décembre 2016 à 23:49</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:PMingLiU;color:black"><br>
                      </span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">À : </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">&quot;<a href="mailto:ws2-ombudsman@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-ombudsman@icann.org</a>&quot;
                        &lt;<a href="mailto:ws2-ombudsman@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-ombudsman@icann.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Objet : </b>[Ws2-ombudsman] Ombudsman
                        Assessment: RFP Overview</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;"> </span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Ombudsman
                            Subgroup,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Many thanks again
                            for making time on yesterday’s call for our
                            RFP presentation. While I promised the
                            document by Wednesday, I am pleased to let
                            you know that we have already a draft ready
                            for your consideration (attached to this
                            email). Please note that in the Draft all
                            dates are placeholders- hence the
                            highlights.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                      </span>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">We would very much
                            appreciate if you could submit your comments
                            by Friday 23 December 16:00 UTC (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.timeanddate.com_worldclock_fixedtime.html-3Fmsg-3DSubmit-2BComments-2Bto-2BOmbudsman-2BAssessment-2BRFP-26iso-3D20161223T16-26p1-3D-253A&amp;d=DgMFAw&amp;c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&amp;r=J4rVei4WZIn6-raGBj5dwYkl2jzyfta0KTxH92lGiro&amp;m=k-gs9i_UX-77NEgRsNGq2pIpi0IjfnrH8dvPYcWuQLw&amp;s=MSm9wS0c8sayrssqvhjAS5QpThdJQnUZ2kCgwHbhbKg&amp;e=" target="_blank">local
                              times[timeanddate.com]</a>). </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The deadline is
                          important so that we can get the RFP posted in
                          the first week of January.</span></p>
                      <span>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">While it is up to
                            the Subgroup to determine how to provide
                            comments and feedback, from our experience <b>on-list
                              commenting</b> is often the most efficient
                            way. Depending on how that progresses, you
                            may then decide to hold a call later in the
                            week if need be. The MSSI Team (Larisa,
                            Charla, Lars) would of course be happy to
                            attend such a call- if you think we could be
                            of assistance.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">With regards to
                            advertising the RFP once it goes online, we
                            would be very grateful, as we mentioned
                            before, for any <b>suggestions about
                              organizations/associations</b> that we
                            could leverage <b>to publicize the call</b>.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If you have any
                            questions, please feel free to reach out to
                            us at any time.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Many thanks and
                            best wishes,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Lars</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">PS: </span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;">______________________________<wbr>_________________
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            <a href="mailto:Ws2-ombudsman@icann.org" target="_blank">Ws2-ombudsman@icann.org</a><br>
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