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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The notes, recordings and transcripts for WS2
<b>SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #5</b> – 1 September 2016 will be available here:
<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/XRKsAw">https://community.icann.org/x/XRKsAw</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">A copy of the
</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#18376A">n</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">otes may be found below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thank you</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#18376A">.</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#18376A"> </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1D1D1D">With kind regards,</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#244185">Brenda Brewer </span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1D1D1D">MSSI Projects & Operations Assistant</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none;border:none;padding:0in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1D1D1D">ICANN<b>
</b>-<b> </b>Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Notes</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">1. Call Admin and Roll Call / Apologies (2min- Staff)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr audio only<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">2. Welcome - Opening Remarks (3min- SDB, FB, CLO)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: There was no clear decision on SO/AC accountability question at the CCWG plenary on last Tuesday. Will present the slides <br>
presented at the plenary. (presentation of slides <a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59643284&preview=/59643284/61609810/update%20on%20SOAC%20Accountability%20%5BAug-2016%5D.pdf"><span style="color:#3B73AF">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=59643284&preview=/59643284/61609810/update%20on%20SOAC%20Accountability%20%5BAug-2016%5D.pdf</span></a> )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: ccNSO has always sought non-member participantion. Other SOACs may also have other interesting and unique mechanisms they use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: 2 questions are who are we accountable to and what are we accountable for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: We know SO's are responsible to their members per the Bylaws - what we are looking at is do we need to increase this accountability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:22.5pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:15.0pt;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1;background:white">
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Christopher Wilkinson: The Bylaws are clear. What we are talking about is the accountability of the delegates of the SOACs in the new <br>
Empowered Community. The incremental new accountability in the new accountability scheme in ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Farzaneh Badii: the MAR could be used as a soft approach to share best practices. Given there are no other questions let us move to the next agenda item.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Matthew Shears:<strong><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span></strong>the issue of scope has to be agreed - Christopher's approach (I understand) seeks to look at what the new <br>
accountability requirements post transition, but others, including myself, believe that this is about the accountability of SOs and ACs generally, not <br>
just post transition<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">3. Review (brief) of last call #3 and any Action Items / Business Arising (5 min- SDB, FB)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">4. Discussion (25 min)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- To whom are the SO/ACs accountable to<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- What are the SO/ACs accountable for<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">- Discuss Matt's suggestion to start from track three: "Develop a detailed working plan on enhancing SO and AC accountability <br>
taking into consideration the comments made during the public comment period on the Third Draft Proposal."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Googledoc: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WTRZZJ9B3Q6BHP6AlDHmoiep8NeshNpomBNM4bBXYpA/edit?ts=57ba7a43"><span style="color:#3B73AF">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WTRZZJ9B3Q6BHP6AlDHmoiep8NeshNpomBNM4bBXYpA/edit?ts=57ba7a43</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: accountability has 4 dimensions: Transparency, Consultation, Review, Redress. We should consider this when <br>
considering how to scope our work. MAR may be a distraction, we should start with the workplan. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: Appendix C contains a number of elements for ICANN when we began the work on WS1 and it may not be <br>
reasonable to think we should apply this to SOACs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: agree Steve. But we have addressed and resolved some of these criteria in WS1 and see if they could apply <br>
although many may not apply.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: Mathew Shear's suggestion has meritt to explore these aspects and should be pursued. This could provide the basis <br>
for several sections of our report.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve DelBianco: Our charter says Review and Develop and we have to do the reviews to identify gaps. If you have criteria <br>
ahead of time it makes it easier to identify those potential gaps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Cheryl Langdon-Orr: If we actually capture what is going on now and compare it will be very useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Athina Fragkouli: These should not be hard criteria - more points of reference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Mathew Shears: We need to work with the SO and ACs if we are going to succeed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">Steve Delbianco: If members from the SO and ACs could come back at the next meeting to present the accountability <br>
mechanisms in each of these which are NOT in the Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333">5. AOB / Next Meeting (5min)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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