<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Apologies for mislabeling. By "collective responsibility" I meant "collective accountability". Pre-breakfast emailing...<br><br><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Best regards,</span><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Rinalia </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Rinalia Abdul Rahim</span></div></div><div><br>On Aug 17, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <<a href="mailto:rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com">rinalia.abdulrahim@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi. <br><br>This is a personal input from me and not an input from the Board. <br><br>Regarding the responses to the Board's Track 2 and 3 comments on collective responsibility, I think it may be useful to apply the frame of accountability that guided the work of CCWG-Accountability (i.e., participation, transparency, appeal and redress). If within each SO/AC (including for engagement in EC processes), the standards for participation, transparency, appeals and redress apply, then the robustness of decision-making rises and the quality of the aggregate result rises. This to my mind would enhance "collective responsibility."<br><br>The Ombudsbeing (as an alternative to Ombudsman or woman :) can be an additional part of the appeals and redress process as a safeguard in case internal SO/AC processes are not sufficient or failed or preferred by affected community members. I think allowing for the Ombuds to be invoked in EC-related matters is generally fine. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I believe each SO/AC sets its own standards on participation, transparency, appeal and redress. The collective "average" on standards could rise with the proposed learning and sharing of best-practices across community and SO/ACs. What's important is that the SO/ACs are open to it and it seems from the public comments responses that they generally are. That's a good start.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">I hope this is useful.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Best regards,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Rinalia<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:03 AM, Steve DelBianco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, August 16, 2017 at 6:44 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:ws2-so_ac@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-so_ac@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ws2-so_ac@icann.org" target="_blank">ws2-so_ac@icann.org</a>>, Steve DelBianco <<a href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org" target="_blank">sdelbianco@netchoice.org</a>>,
farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:thomas@rickert.net" target="_blank">thomas@rickert.net</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Brenda Brewer <<a href="mailto:mssi-secretariat@icann.org" target="_blank">mssi-secretariat@icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Please join the Work Stream 2 - SO/AC Accountability Subgroup Meeting #29 on Thursday 17th August @ 1300 UTC.<br>
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