Re: [lac-discuss-en] [NA-Discuss] Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's Questions



Thank you Garth for your confirmation.

 

Heidi, can you please post Ericâs questions on the wiki.

 

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Phone:  + 216 41 649 605

Mobile: + 216 98 330 114

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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Garth Bruen [mailto:gbruen@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Envoyà : jeudi 6 mars 2014 18:57
à : 'Subrenat, Jean-Jacques'; 'Carlton Samuels'
Cc : lac-discuss-en@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Discussion for At-Large Europe'; 
afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Tijani Ben Jemaa'; 'At-Large 
Announcements'; 'APRALO'; 'At-Large Worldwide'; 'NA Discuss'
Objet : RE: [NA-Discuss] Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's 
Questions

 

As Chair of NARALO I can confirm that Eric is a member of the ISOC SF

 

In general I would rather not limit anyone's voice. HOWEVER, Eric's access to 
At-Large discussions has been suspended pending an apology requested by myself 
for making personal statements about members of the ICANN community which did 
not pertain to policy but were rather Ad Hominem.

 

I have not read the questions myself, but will now.

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: na-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:na-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Subrenat, 
Jean-Jacques

Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 12:46 PM

To: Carlton Samuels

Cc: lac-discuss-en@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Discussion for At-Large Europe; 
afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Discuss; Tijani Ben Jemaa; At-Large 
Announcements; APRALO; At-Large Worldwide; NA Discuss

Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's 
Questions

 

I agree with the points made by Olivier and Carlton.

 

I'm prepared to respond to Eric, but am waiting for one of two things:

- that his questions be duly posted on the Questions and Answers Workspace,

- or that I be told by Staff, on behalf of Tijani, that Eric's questions are to 
be responded to in the Questions and Answers Workspace, even if his questions 
are not posted there.

 

Thank you.

Jean-Jacques.

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx>

To: "Tijani Ben Jemaa" <tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxxx>

Cc: "Jean-Jacques Subrenat" <jjs@xxxxxxxxxx>, "At-Large Worldwide" 
<at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lac-discuss-en@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 
"Discussion for At-Large Europe" <euro-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, 
"afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Discuss" 
<afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "At-Large Announcements" 
<alac-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "APRALO" 
<apac-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "NA Discuss" 
<na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sent: Jeudi 6 Mars 2014 18:31:42

Subject: Wrong Context for Deciding How to Address EBW's Questions

 

 

 

Dear Tijani: 

I have read your response to JJS's query and would wish to provide a different 
context for applying whether the questions from EBW should command response. 

 

 

I seriously doubt if the case that " Eric is not an at-large member' is good 
and sufficient to ignore his questions. In fact that criteria is misplaced and 
fundamentally at odds with the conceptual underpinnings of the At-Large's in 
the ICANN community and the ALAC's role in ICANN operations and governance. 

 

 

The At-Large is recognized as the home of the ordinary internet user in the 
ICANN ecosystem. While we have embraced a certain organisational framework as a 
management tool, active participation of any internet user in ICANN policy 
development is the bottomline objective 

 

 

So long as Eric Brunner Williams is an internet enduser and while he remains 
within the framework of acceptable conduct established by the At-Large thru 
ALAC, there can be no other membership criteria for participation. 

 

 

You may use other [valid] criteria to reject broadcasting his questions. And 
candidates have an absolute right to ignore him and not answer, again for 
various and sundry reasons. But a status of membership or membership criteria 
may not be employed as disqualifiers. 

 

 

And I say this as one who has been unfairly maligned by the said Eric Brunner 
Williams.. 

 

 

Best, 

-Carlton 

 

 

 

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Carlton A Samuels 

Mobile: 876-818-1799 

Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround 

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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Tijani BENJEMAA < tijani.benjemaa@xxxxxxxxx > 
wrote: 

 

 

Dear Jean Jacques, 

 

 

 

Thank you for answering the questions posted on the wiki. 

 

As for Eric questions, Evan said Eric is not an at-large member. If he is not, 
we will ignore his questions. If he is, his question will be posted on the wiki 
to be answered by the candidates. 

 

 

 

Heidi, can you please confirm that Eric is not an At-Large member??? 

 

 

 

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Tijani BEN JEMAA 

 

Executive Director 

 

Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (FMAI) 

 

Phone: + 216 41 649 605 

 

Mobile: + 216 98 330 114 

 

Fax: + 216 70 853 376 

 

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-----Message d'origine----- 

De : afri-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: 
afri-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ] De la part de Subrenat, 
Jean-Jacques 

Envoyà : jeudi 6 mars 2014 12:21 

à : At-Large Worldwide 

Cc : lac-discuss-en@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
euro-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
alac-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; apac-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; 
na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Objet : Re: [AFRI-Discuss] [At-Large] REMINDER: At-Large BOARD DIRECTOR 
Question and Answer Workspace - Deadline: 10 March 

 

 

 

Dear Tijani and Heidi, 

 

 

 

1) This is to let you know that, in response to the questions from Eduardo 
Diaz, I've posted my replies in the Questions and Answers Workspace 

 

https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace
 . 

 

 

 

2) I requested your guidance about the questions from Eric Brunner-Williams, 
which I have only received in email form, but which are not (yet?) on the 
Questions and Answers Workspace. A point was raised by Alan about regional 
factors, and Eric replied by addressing the questions to the individuals, 
rather than in their regional capacity. Do you intend to post Eric's questions, 
to be replied to in the same format as Eduardo's questions? 

 

 

 

Thank you. 

 

 

 

Best regards, 

 

Jean-Jacques. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

From: "Heidi Ullrich" < Heidi.Ullrich@xxxxxxxxx > 

 

To: alac-announce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , "At-Large Worldwide ( 
at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx )" < at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >, 
afri-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , apac-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , 
euro-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , lac-discuss-en@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx , 
na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

Sent: Jeudi 6 Mars 2014 01:54:14 

 

Subject: [At-Large] REMINDER: At-Large BOARD DIRECTOR Question and Answer 
Workspace - Deadline: 10 March 

 

 

 

**VERSION FRANÃAISE Ã LA SUITE DE LA VERSION ANGLAISE ** 

 

 

 

**VERSION ESPAÃOL DESPUES DE LA VERSION FRANCESA** 

 

 

 

**ENGLISH VERSION** 

 

 

 

Dear All, 

 

 

 

On behalf of Tjani Ben Jemaa, Chair of the BMSPC, please find the 2014 At-Large 
Board Director Candidates - Questions and Answers Workspace (see: 
https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace
 ). 

 

 

 

This Workspace will serve as the mechanism for the At-Large community to ask 
questions to the 2014 Board Director Candidates and for the Candidates to reply 
to the questions. 

 

 

 

The Workspace will be open from now, Monday, 3 March 2014 through Monday, 10 
March 2014 at 23:59 UTC. 

 

 

 

The At-Large community members having a login are requested to ask their 
questions directly on the wiki. The others may send their questions to At-Large 
staff ( staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >) and we will 
post them on the wiki. 

 

 

 

The candidates are requested to continuously visit the wiki and answer the 
questions directly there since they all should have a login. 

 

 

 

Regards, 

 

 

 

** 

 

 

 

Bonjour à tous, 

 

 

 

Au nom de Tjani Ben Jemaa, PrÃsident de la BMSPC, merci de trouver ci-joint 
l'espace de travail pour les Questions et RÃponses aux Candidats At-Large 2014 
au Conseil d'Administration (Board) (voir: https://community.icann. 
..org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace).
 

 

 

 

Cet espace de travail servira de mÃcanisme afin que la communautà At-Large 
puisse poser des questions aux Candidats At-Large 2014 au Conseil 
d'Administration et que les candidats puissent y à rÃpondre. 

 

 

 

L'espace de travail sera ouvert du lundi 3 mars 2014 au lundi 10 mars 2014, Ã 
23:59 UTC. 

 

 

 

Les membres de la communautà At-Large ayant un login sont invitÃs à poser leurs 
questions directement sur le wiki. Les autres peuvent envoyer leurs questions 
au personnel At-Large ( staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: 
staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >) et nous les publierons sur le wiki. 

 

 

 

Les candidats sont invitÃs à consulter le wiki rÃguliÃrement et de rÃpondre aux 
questions directement sur cet espace. 

 

 

 

Cordialement, 

 

 

 

** 

 

 

 

Estimados todos, 

 

 

 

En nombre de Tjani Ben Jemaa, Presidente del BMSPC, por favor vea abajo el 
espacio WIKI con las Preguntas y Respuestas a los Candidatos a Director de la 
Junta Directiva de ICANN 2014 (vea : 
https://community.icann.org/display/ABMS/2014+At-Large+Board+Director+Candidates+-+Questions+and+Answers+Workspace
 ). 

 

 

 

Este espacio de trabajo servirà como el mecanismo a disposiciÃn de la comunidad 
de At-Large para hacer preguntas y para los candidatos a la posiciÃn de 
Director 2014 para responder a estas preguntas. 

 

 

 

El Grupo de trabajo estarà abierto desde ahora, Lunes, 3 Marzo de 2014 hasta el 
Lunes 10 de Marzo del 2014 a las 23:59 UTC. 

 

 

 

Los miembros de la comunidad de At-Large que tengan un login sÃrvanse hacer sus 
preguntas directamente en la Wiki. Los demÃs miembros pueden tambiÃn enviar sus 
preguntas al personal de At-Large staff ( staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto: 
staff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >) y nosotros los colocaremos en la pÃgina Wiki. 

 

 

 

Se les pide a los candidatos que visiten la pÃgina wiki constantemente y 
respondan las preguntas directamente en la Wiki, dado que todos los candidatos 
deben tener un login. 

 

 

 

 

 

Saludos cordiales, 

 

 

 

Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, 
Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC 

 

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