Re: [lac-discuss-en] [ALAC] IO recommends .amazon reconsideration

[Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have a somewhat different viewpoint. It is true that the position 
of the GAC and its advice may be changing, but we need to look at the 
specifics of this particular case.

The GAC has given lots of advice. Some is followed, some is rejected 
and in some cases a middle-ground is found. In all such cases, there 
is plenty of debate and discussion. In the case of .amazon, the GAC 
provided no rationale for the advice (they were not required to at 
the time). But more surprisingly, the Board did not subject this to 
debate but rather, and without rationale (which WAS required!) simply 
accepted the GAC advice. The IRP, in my mind, is simply recognizing 
that the Board did not follow its usual and proper practice of 
attempting to balance competing interests in this case.

Alan

At 19/07/2017 09:55 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:

> Yes mam, this is indeed the key strategic implication from the IRP. 
> In my own view however, ALAC [re]action may be premature for objective.
>
> Recent developments, especially this empowered community model, has 
> already undermined the "GAC advises, Board follows" scheme. I see 
> this IRP decision as adding grist to the mill in any downstream 
> federal court action. If and when a federal district court makes 
> that pronouncement, then stick a fork in it. It is roasted.
>
> -Carlton
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> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Jacqueline Morris 
> <<mailto:jam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>jam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> But to me, far more important in the long term is the very clear 
> rejection of "the GAC advises, the Board follows" model. The ruling 
> has chipped away at the power of the GAC "advice" , and may change 
> the dynamic of the stakeholder roles in ICANN.
> Might this be an opportunity for At-Large to work towards balancing 
> the roles of the ACs? Given that the relationship with the Board is 
> different for the various ACs, based on the bye-laws.
> Jacqueline
>
> On 18 Jul 2017 11:38, "Dev Anand Teelucksingh" 
> <<mailto:devtee@xxxxxxxxx>devtee@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The IRP decision:
> <https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irp-amazon-final-declaration-11jul17-en.pdf>https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irp-amazon-final-declaration-11jul17-en.pdf
>
> Dev Anand
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Carlton Samuels
> <<mailto:carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx>carlton.samuels@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Adds to the kerfuffle surrounding geographic names in the DNS.
> >
> > 
> <http://domainnamewire.com/2017/07/18/amazon-com-gets-big-win-domain-battle-may-yet-get-amazon-domain/>http://domainnamewire.com/2017/07/18/amazon-com-gets-big-win-domain-battle-may-yet-get-amazon-domain/
> >
> >
> > -Carlton
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