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[Ron Baione <ron.baione@xxxxxxxxx>]

There is no seperation between Non-government, Non-business community citizens 
and government/business, because government/business is made up of the citizens 
as well.  No Government or business worker works 24 hours a day, they 
transition away from their civic duty at unpredictable times.  

Rather, the definition of civil society should be inclusive of every group that 
exists within the perimeter of the assumed authority of that society, unless 
the society is in fact an oligarchy, which is immoral government with no real 
tangible "civil" participation by anyone except the oligarchs.  For 
example, it has been proven that since 1976 there has been no real change by 
the lower and middle class in thne United States since the Supreme Court 
allowed unlimited funding of elections, thereby allowing the purchase of 
American politicians by oligarchs.  

So, which country do we talk about when speaking about "civil 
society", a mythical democratic country maybe, although people in Sweden 
claim to have very little corruption in their government.  There is nothing 
civil about a country where politicans are just puppets who are bought.

Ron

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