Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] - Price caps - was: The Case for Regulatory Capture at ICANN | Review Signal Blog
- To: Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] [At-Large] - Price caps - was: The Case for Regulatory Capture at ICANN | Review Signal Blog
- From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto_gaetano@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2019 12:26:21 +0000
> On 29.06.2019, at 02:03, Karl Auerbach <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On 6/28/19 2:36 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
>> Here's another, anecdotal datapoint: I have been involved in the Internet
>> for nearly as long. But it's been helping family, friends, small businesses,
>> colleges, religious institutions, and refugees in camps. I've worked with
>> entrepreneurs both new and established, struggling to make a presence on the
>> Internet and finding that their first 20 choices were only available at an
>> aftermarket premium. The result is that they either had to:
>> * change their brand name to suit the available names (this has
>> happened more than once)
>> * agonize over whether to settle for a domain name using hyphens
>> * pay a lesser premium in a new TLD they don't know is fully reachable
>> * resign themselves to having a non-memorable (ie, shitty) domain and
>> using other strategies to lead people to them.
>
> I agree that it is sad that we don't live in a world of pink ponies,
> unicorns, perfect equity, and no competition for resources.
>
> Your people want "brand names" - which I read as a synonym for "trademark" -
> and find that someone else has already registered it?
>
> That's pretty normal life in the land of trade names. Somebody got there
> first. Somebody else go there too late. That is not speculation, that is
> not abuse.
>
> Athol Fugard wrote that "the saddest words ... are 'too late'."
>
> Or are you arguing that there is some sort of elevated goodness attribute
> that should allow "family, friends, small businesses, colleges, religious
> institutions, and refugees" to preempt prior uses? And who shall be the judge
> that weighs applicants to measure who is the more worthy?
>
> (Given that my wife and I make large contributions of our time, labor, and
> money to non-profit and charitable organizations, we might find that kind of
> preemptive power useful. But I doubt that such a thing would always be
> perceived as fair or just by the prior users.)
>
> (And I do wonder about the inclusion of "small business" and "entrepreneurs"
> in that list - I'd love to have my small businesses to have a power of
> preemption. And in the several start-ups that I've done I would have
> welcomed the ability to take a domain name away from another prior user.)
>
> Are you focusing on the notion of "use"? If so, what is "use" of a domain
> name? Must it resolve - for any query from any source - to an IP address, or
> a TXT record or something? If that requirement were put into place you can
> bet that every registrar will quickly deploy a "sufficient to pass muster"
> resolver service for its customers to use.
>
> (Since you mentioned entrepreneurs - A common practice in start ups is to
> register a portfolio of domain names as candidates for products or corporate
> names, to hold them in private for several years, and then to sell off the
> ones that were not selected to be put into play. Does that constitute a
> "use" or an "abuse"?)
>
> Regarding hyphenated or even non-semantic names - Anyone these days who
> depends on humans making semantic sense out of a domain name is living in
> days of fading glory. Search engines, especially when embedded in browser
> address bars, have long ago started to diminish the use of domain names as
> carriers of semantic content. And the rise of application handles such as
> facebook or twitter names has diminished that further.
>
> --karl--
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