[CCWG-ACCT] Further Objection to the Methodology

Wed Apr 15 12:11:11 UTC 2015

+1 Lisse, Otieno.
-Akinbo.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am in agreement with Dr. Lisse,i think the issues he raises are of
> fundamental importance and should be looked at in detail as we move
> forwad. It  is better to get it right than as opposed to just focusing
> on a deliverable.
>
> Regards
>
> On 4/15/15, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
> > Dear Co-Chairs Thomas and Matheiu,
> >
> > Can you please explain to you Co-Chair that the very point was that
> > I need time to study the document and that I objected and still
> > object against dealing with this in a cursory manner.
> >
> > However, since he asked, I'll write under correction, that I don't
> > think ccTLDs can be (in) a member organization unless all 253 bind
> > themselves to this.
> >
> > I have asked NUMEROUS times, to no avail, that we find out what the
> > legal foundation of the USG's claim to the root/IANA function is.
> > And we need to establish how this relates to each ccTLD. We may not
> > be able to do this for all 253 (or how many they are) but there are
> > a few broad categories we can classify them in.
> >
> > For example (and just off the cuff and decidedly incomplete)
> >
> > Before RFC1951 (1994)
> > before ICANN
> > During ICANN
> > IDN ccTLDs
> >
> > But, again, I object to being put under pressure of dealing with a
> > complex matter and document in a superficial manner.
> >
> > greetings, el
> >
> >
> > On 2015-04-15 04:16 , León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
> >> Dear Eberhard,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your comments.
> >>
> >> Which content issues did you identify in the document?  I will be
> >> happy to discuss and take back to the legal sub-team and the
> >> lawyers.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> León
> >>
> >>> El 14/04/2015, a las 7:42, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.NA> escribió:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Co-Charis,
> >>>
> >>> this is not directed against an individual or a group of individuals
> >>> (inside the CCWG).
> >>>
> >>> I can not participate in a meaningful deliberation on this unless I
> >>> have time to properly review this document, not just being fed a
> >>> large number of busy slides.
> >>>
> >>> Never mind "decision".
> >>>
> >>> There are some content issues (for example with regards to
> >>> membership as far as ccTLDs are concerned) which flashed by.
> >>>
> >>> This the wrong way of dealing with this, and I renew my objection for
> >>> the record.
> >>>
> >>> el
> >>>
> >>> On 2015-04-14 13:29, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:
> >>>> Dear Eberhard,
> >>>>
> >>>> The slides were sent to everyone as soon as we got them.
> >>>>
> >>>> I remind you that no substantial decision is made on any single
> >>>> call so you don’t have to worry on having to decide on anything
> >>>> on this call.  We make second readings on substantial issues.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> León
> >>>>
> >>>>> El 14/04/2015, a las 7:25, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
> >>>>> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dear Co-Chairs,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why have the slides of the law firm not been sent to us early
> >>>>> enough to consider them, prior to being presented and discussed?
> >>>>> Never mind decision making.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I object to this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> el
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse  \        / Obstetrician & Gynaecologist (Saar)
> >>>>> el at lisse.NA            / *     |   Telephone: +264 81 124 6733
> (cell)
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> > el at lisse.NA            / *     |   Telephone: +264 81 124 6733 (cell)
> > PO Box 8421             \     /
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