[CCWG-ACCT] [Acct-Legal] Accountability questions to law firms

[Greg Shatan]

Dear Co-Chairs,

Please allow me to point out that I am not "representing the IPC" or
"representing the interests of the IPC" in my involvement in the CCWG, in
which I am a "participant."  I joined the CCWG of my personal volition, in
my individual capacity.  I do, however, represent the Commercial
Stakeholder Group in the CWG-IANA, in which I am a "member," appointed by
the CSG.

Best regards,

Greg Shatan

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:

> Dear Co-Chairs,
>
> I apologize for emailing the participant representing the interests of the
> IPC directly.
>
> el
> --
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
> On Apr 24, 2015, at 00:22, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>
> Dear Co-Chairs,
>
> let me quote from the transcript of the Legal SubTeam session in question
> the participant representing the Interests of the IP who was chairing in an
> acting capacity:
>
> "In addition another email came up today asking a question which the
> sender wished to have the lawyers look into that was an email from Dr.
> (Eberhard Elisa).
>
> And his topic was what gives the US government the right to control the
> root anyway? He also indicated that he had perceived a past promise to for
> the lawyers to review or answer this question.
>
> I have not done an exhaustive review of the record but don’t recall any
> such promise being made. I also don’t see the direct linkage between that
> and Workstream 1 or even between that and accountability per se.
>
> So I think both - there’s both that particular issue and the others that
> I circulated a little bit earlier we have to decide how to deal with those
> and what if anything to assigned to the lawyers."
> The next reference to the issue is by Mr McAulay a little later:
>
> "And so my hope is that while Dr. (Elisa)’s question is interesting is
> that we raise questions right now that deal with Workstream 1 for, you
> know, in order to support the CCWG as best we can between now and April 21."
>
>
> I can not see a consensus call, not that an un-chartered SubTeam would be
> authorized to make the decision in the first place.
>
> el
> --
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
> On Apr 23, 2015, at 23:09, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Co-Chairs,
>
> Please allow me to correct certain of the misstatements that have recently
> issued, while the rest of us are trying to work.
>
> First, I decided nothing.  The decision referred to was made by the Legal
> Subteam.
> Second, I was not "pipped to the post" to use the the anachronistic
> sporting phrase, since I was not racing to do anything.  Indeed, I have
> said far less than I might, so that I am not drawn into this distraction.
> I agreed with something I read; no more, no less.  But it seems "par for
> the course" to have an intent or basis ascribed to me that I do not have.
> Third, my view on the request for legal assistance has nothing to do with
> my affiliation with the GNSO.  It was based on my view of the relevance of
> the request to the work of the CCWG.  See above regarding "misascription"
> of intent or basis.
>
> Finally, in my view,the meeting so far today have disproved the
> characterizations made below.  Sadly, anyone who took their hands off the
> oar (to continue in a sporting vein) and elected not to participate would
> never know.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Greg Shatan
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>
>> Dear Co-Chairs,
>>
>> pleas convey my disappointment to the participant representing the
>> interests of the IPC that he was pipped to the post, fortunately only by
>> another participant from the gNSO.
>>
>> Intense work days, indeed...
>>
>> el
>> --
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>
>
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