[CCWG-ACCT] [Acct-Legal] Nomcom as a UA - legal question

Jordan Carter jordan at internetnz.net.nz
Thu Apr 30 04:28:13 UTC 2015


Great note. Thanks Greg, all.

Jordan

On 30 April 2015 at 16:14, List for the work of CCWG-Accountability Legal
SubTeam <ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org> wrote:

>  For the Legal Sub-Team, our two law firms have discussed how to answer
> Ms. Doria's questions in a way that opens up two options:
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> (1) treating the NomCom as an unincorporated association, acting as a
> designator, appointing directors to the Board, and
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> (2) treating the NomCom as a Delegate Council, not as an entity but as an
> internal ICANN process by which delegates from statutory members of ICANN
> plus non-voting delegates from other stakeholders collectively elect
> directors, much as they do now.
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> The removal process could be virtually the same under either option.
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> Moving to the Delegate Council option, however, does require attention to
> the future role of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), which
> presently has a voting delegate on the NomCom.
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> Best regards,
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> Greg Colvin
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> ccwg-accountability5-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *List for the work
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> *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 3:55 PM
> *To:* Avri Doria; ccwg-accountability5 at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [Acct-Legal] [CCWG-ACCT] Nomcom as a UA - legal question
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> Avri,
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> I am forwarding your question to the Legal Sub Team list.
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> Greg
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> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I am confused as to how this works.  Please forgive my questions.  This
> has less to do with the proposal I made then with trying to understand the
> nature of a UA.  I had not realized until yesterday that the membership
> model was as popular as it has been defined to be.  I had also not realized
> that we were down to membership or designator model as our only choices
> until today.
>
> What qualifies the Nomcom as an association?  It can't be the people, as
> there is no continuity, except among the staff. and  some overlap in chairs
> as last year's chair, this years' chair and next year's possible chair,
> sit togehter each year. I guess that  is a bit of natural person
> continuity.  Is that chair thread significant?
>
> Or is that it is always formed according to same bylaw, even if all of the
> people are different, that is a qualifying mark? Is being a differnt
> instantiation of the same process sufficient to define a UA, even if there
> is no continuity of natural persons?
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>
> thanks
>
>
> avrl
>
> Note: I would have sent this to the legal list, but i never managed to get
> subscribed that one as far as I can tell.
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