[CCWG-Accountability] Fwd: Agenda for CCWG-Accountability on 30 December at 19:00 UTC

Thu Jan 1 11:59:50 UTC 2015

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From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
Date: 2015-01-01 11:40 GMT+01:00
Subject: Re: [CCWG-Accountability] Agenda for CCWG-Accountability on 30
December at 19:00 UTC
To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>

Hi Kavouss,

I guess you intend to write the list but it seem it's a PM to me.

Regards

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 1 Jan 2015 10:36, "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear. All
> I have no problem to write a Note to the Board asking procedure which will
> be used  in case some items arising from CCWG requiring change in Bylaws
> even though Bruce had indicated the procedure in his recent message.
> What I disagree is to write to the Board and asking what changed they
> accept from CCWG.
> This is not appropriate.  CCWG is established. It will send its outcome or
> conclusions which resulted from discussions ,debates, meetings and thus our
> works should  continue freely, openly, in a democratic and transparent
> manner without any prerequisite conditions.
> Those who believe that CCWG requires prerequisite permission from Board
> what to be studied and what should not be studied need to review their
> position and allow us to work without any pre conditions  and instruction
> from the Board
> Kavouss
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 1 Jan 2015, at 00:44, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I think writing to board to know how it will treat the WG outcome
> especially when some of it's implementations will require by-law
> modifications that further involve the ICANN community in decision making
> process may be useful.
> Secondly, there are common items of interest between CCWG and CWG so I
> think we may learn some hint from board's recent participation in the CWG
>
> Cheers!
>
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 30 Dec 2014 23:40, "Paul Rosenzweig" <
> paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>>
>>
>> As a follow up to our discussion on today’s call and in reference to my
>> point that OUR work on accountability is highly dependent on what the
>> Board/ICANN will or will not agree to, may I propose that our Chairs send
>> to the Board and the ICANN CEO a communication roughly along the following
>> lines:
>>
>>
>>
>> The Cross-Community Working Group on accountability measures has been
>> considering many accountability mechanisms to recommend concerning the
>> prospective governance of ICANN.   Many members and participants in the
>> CCWG have tentatively concluded that the nature and scope of the CCWG’s
>> recommendations  is dependent upon knowing whether or not the Board and
>> ICANN will agree to certain fundamental limitations on Board authority.
>> Accordingly, the CCWG requests direct input from the Board and/or CEO on
>> the following question:
>>
>>
>>
>> “Will the Board agree, in principle, to accept accountability
>> recommendations that a) restrict (either through Bylaw amendment or
>> contract) the scope of ICANN activity exclusively to management and
>> operation of the IANA function; and b) that provides an independent
>> mechanism (whether through outside arbiter or internal review by a standing
>> community group) by which alleged attempts by the Board/ICANN to exceed
>> that narrow scope of authority may be adjudicated and, if necessary,
>> restrained?
>>
>>
>>
>> If the Board is fundamentally willing to accept such limitations then
>> remaining accountability mechanisms may be reasonably limited to proposals
>> that relate to the successful implementation of the IANA function itself.
>> If the Board and ICANN are, however, not willing to accept such limitations
>> on their own authority then many members of the CCWG believe that
>> accountability mechanisms proposed by the CCWG will need to be
>> commensurately broadened.”
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not, of course, care terribly much about the specific language we
>> use.  My goal, however, is to find a way to get Board input into our
>> decision making at a point where it can significantly narrow (or
>> substantially broadened) our field of consideration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps more to the point, simply asking the question creates information
>> – if the Board is unable or unwilling to answer at all (or if it answers in
>> the negative) that would, in and of itself, justify the community in
>> seeking a broader accountability package.  By contrast, if the Board
>> answers affirmatively, then our task is much simpler – we need to reach
>> consensus on the critical WS0 board control mechanisms and then add only
>> the IANA function-related mechanisms we deem necessary.
>>
>>
>>
>> So … my proposal is simply that the Chairs of our WG find some way of
>> both asking this question formally and getting a formal answer for us at
>> the earliest practicable opportunity.
>>
>>
>>
>> I wish everyone a very healthy and happy new year.
>>
>>
>>
>> Warm regards
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Grace Abuhamad [mailto:grace.abuhamad at icann.org]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 8:16 AM
>> *To:* Accountability Cross Community
>> *Cc:* Brenda Brewer
>> *Subject:* [CCWG-Accountability] Agenda for CCWG-Accountability on 30
>> December at 19:00 UTC
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find below the proposed agenda for the CCWG-Accountability call on
>> 30 December at 19:00 UTC. I will send to call details to the Notify list.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Proposed Agenda*:
>>
>> 1. Welcome & Roll Call & Statements of Interest
>>
>> 2. Membership Updates
>>
>> 3. Work Area Updates
>>
>> WA1 – David Maher / Samantha Eisner
>>
>> WA2 – Steve DelBianco
>>
>> WA3 – Avri Doria
>>
>> WA4 – Eric Brunner-Williams
>>
>> 4. Coordination between CWG and ICG
>>
>> 5. Expectations for the F2F
>>
>> 6. AOB
>>
>> 7. Closing Remarks
>>
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