[CCWG-Accountability] the term "community"

Dr Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.na
Mon Jan 12 11:30:18 UTC 2015


Dear Co-Chairs,

can we please arrange for an open format such as PDF?

greetings, el

On 2015-01-12 12:59 , Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
> Mathieu, and others
> Please find  attached my comments in form of revision marks my comments
> Kavouss
> 
> 2015-01-12 9:26 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr
> <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>:
> 
>     Dear Colleagues,
> 
>     This discussion about the "community" is quite relevant to our
>     group. May I suggest to turn these discussions into proposed edits
>     to the draft document regarding scope and definitions ? Essentially
>     within the section regarding stakeholders.
> 
>     I attach the documents once again.
> 
>     Best
>     Mathieu
>     Le 10/01/2015 12:21, Bruce Tonkin a écrit :
> 
>         Hello Kavouss,
> 
>                   I have one question which continued to bother me as
>                 everyone refers to "community"
>                         What is that magic term "community» covers?
>                         Does it includes or embrace the entire
>                 multistakeholders?
>                         As it was discussed at several occasion, there
>                 is a defacto agreement that ,generally speaking
>                 multistakeholder composed        of Civil Society,
>                 Private Sector, Technical Community including academics,
>                 Governments
> 
> 
>         I think that is a good question, and probably worth this group
>         considering some definitions around that topic.
> 
>         For me personally, I tend to think of the terms in the following
>         way:
> 
>         "ICANN Community" - this is the group of people that participate
>         in the various ICANN working groups via email, phone, or
>         websites,  and attend ICANN meetings.     This group is made up
>         of individuals from GNSO constituencies and stakeholder groups,
>         GAC, SSAC, ALAC, RSSAC, ccTLD representatives, RIR
>         representatives etc.    In my personal view, it is
>         multi-stakeholder in that it includes people from Civil Society,
>         Private Sector, Technical Community including academics,
>         Governments.
> 
>         In addition to that there is a wider community of people that
>         are members of the various organizations that are in turn
>         members of the various groups that comprise the ICANN
>         community.   As an example, I am a member of the Internet
>         Society of Australia (ISOC) which is part of the Asia,
>         Australasia and the Pacific Islands Regional At-Large
>         Organisation (APRALO) which is part of At-large.   ISOC in
>         Australia may send a representative to ICANN meetings.       A
>         business might be a member of a chamber of commerce or business
>         association, which in turn could be a member of the ICANN
>         business constituency,  and that chamber of commerce or business
>         association may send a representative to an ICANN meeting as a
>         member of the ICANN community.   I don't have any specific name
>         for this wider group of people and organizations.
> 
>         Then there is term "public" which is used within the term
>         "global public interest".   In general, I personally think of
>         the public in this context as Internet users.   However you
>         could also consider public  in this context to be all the people
>         of the world.   Even people that don't directly use the Internet
>         as a communication mechanism are probably affected by it in some
>         way.
> 
>         The fundamental responsibility of  the Board of ICANN  is to
>         exercise their judgment to act in what they reasonably believe
>         to be the best interests of the global public interest, taking
>         account of the interests of the Internet community as a whole
>         rather than any individual group or interest.    Its primary
>         feedback mechanism for determining the global public interest is
>         the "ICANN community" described above.
> 
> 
>         Regards,
>         Bruce Tonkin
> 
> 
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