[CCWG-Accountability] Regarding Non-profit and public-benefit legal structure

Dr Eberhard W Lisse el at lisse.na
Mon Jan 12 13:51:33 UTC 2015


Dear Co-Chairs,

can you please instruct this person to refrain from addressing me directly.

Even if his emails hand content.

greetings, el



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> On Jan 12, 2015, at 15:36, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Though the co-chairs, AGAIN, 
>> 
>> can we PLEASE dispense with trying to explain the basics to someone who most definitively has not taken the opportunity to do her homework in this regard?
> 
> One can also say the devil is in the basis; so it may be important to clarify the basis whenever someone asks for clarification. Its not entirely appropriate to categorise people in a manner as you've done above.
>  
>> 
>> This is a reasonably high volume Mailing List and it is difficult enough to try and keep up without these distractions.
> 
> There is a filtering rule in every email client, also there is the delete feature
> 
> Cheers!
>> 
>> el
>> 
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>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s
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>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:07, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Carrie:
>>> 
>>> That's exactly how it works, and the only way it works.  Remember that the US is a federal system with two pertinent tiers of laws -- state and federal.  
>>> 
>>> Organizations are created under state law, not under federal law (with extremely rare exceptions).  Federal tax exemption is handled (by definition) at the federal level.  A not-for-profit organization must first incorporate under state law, and then proceed to seek a federal tax exemption as a non-profit under 501(c)(3) (or other relevant subsections for particular types of organizations).  
>>> 
>>> In other words, an organization cannot apply for federal tax exemption under 501(c)(3) until it has incorporated as a non-profit under the law of a state of the U.S. [While there are organizations other than corporations that may qualify for federal tax exemptions, such as trusts and "community chests," they are not relevant to this discussion.]
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Greg Shatan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Carrie <carriedev at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Thank you Bruce. But according to Ed 's California corporation registration number they have registered already as a ca corp. please explain how this occurs being a corp on CA at the same time registered as a non profit w the IRS ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> > On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:57 AM, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hello Edward,
>>>> >
>>>> >>> I'm unaware of any current plan to shift ICANN status from non-profit to profit, although some have called for such a change (see, for example: http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/227726-icanns-number-is-up ).
>>>> >
>>>> > That is right - there is no plan from either the Board or staff to change from being a non-profit entity, and I haven't heard any SO or AC make that suggestion either.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Bruce Tonkin
>>>> >
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