[CCWG-Accountability] the term "community"

[Alan Greenberg]

You are correct Avri. I was just looking at the Organizational members.

It is interesting, though, that the Board 
approved that charter after coming out so 
strongly for only allowing registrants.

I have always found it amusing that all of the 
documentation (not only for the NCSG) say 
"registrants" and not "gTLD registrants". A ccTLD 
registration counts just as well.

Alan

At 12/01/2015 01:59 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>Well Alan,
>Not really on topic, however, just to correct the record.
>
>On individual members I include the entire 
>section, please note the first sentence.
>
><https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter>https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Charter
>
>2.2.5. New Individual Members ‑ Eligible Individuals.
>
>Individual persons who agree to advocate for a 
>noncommercial public‑interest position within 
>the Stakeholder group and who fall within one of 
>the following three categories are eligible to 
>join as an “Individual Member”:
>
>1. An Individual who has registered domain 
>name(s) for personal, family or other noncommercial use; or
>
>2. An Individual Internet user who is primarily 
>concerned with the noncommercial 
>public‑interest aspects of domain name policy, 
>and is not represented in ICANN through 
>membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO Stakeholder Group; or
>
>3. An Individual who is employed by or a member 
>of a non-member noncommercial organization 
>(universities, colleges, large NGOs) can join 
>NCSG in his or her individual capacity if their 
>organization has not already joined the NCSG. 
>The Executive Committee shall, at its 
>discretion, determine limits to the total number 
>of Individual members who can join from any 
>single organization (provided the limit shall 
>apply to all Organizations, of the same size category, equally).
>
>An individual who is a member of or employee of 
>a noncommercial organization, which is itself a 
>member of the NCSG, may apply for, or retain 
>membership, in the NCSG only under the first 
>criteria for individual membership, i.e. be an 
>individual noncommercial registrant. Such 
>membership is subject to Executive Committee review.
>
>--
>
>For Organizational members, yes, they need to be 
>registrants, for individual users they do 
>not.  The NCSG SG  accepts individual non 
>commercial users.  And except for NARALO, and 
>perhaps soon EUROLO, is the only place for the civil society user.
>
>avri
>
>
>On 12-Jan-15 13:13, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>I am afraid that is not quite the case.
>>
>>Your reference to III(h)(11) is correct, but 
>>you missed III(a)(2) which says "Be the 
>>exclusive user of at least one domain name. 
>>This can be verified by its listing as the 
>>registrant and/or administrative contact in the 
>>WHOIS data of the domain name, by the name 
>>resolving to a website controlled by and 
>>representing the organization, or other 
>>indications that prove to Secretary-Treasurer 
>>and Chair that the prospective Member 
>>Organization is the primary user of a domain name."
>>
>>Also, the NCUC is a subset of the NCSG, and the 
>>NCSG charter 2.2.1.2 includes those words as well.
>>
>>The issue of whether GNSO participation was 
>>open to non-registrants was discussed during 
>>the last GNSO re-organization, and the Board 
>>made it clear that it was registrants. I 
>>believe that the ALAC was the only part of ICANN that objected to that.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>At 12/01/2015 05:20 AM, Edward Morris wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Actually, Evan, the
>>>Noncommercial Users Constituency does represent ALL users within the
>>>GNSO. Ownership of a domain name is NOT a prerequisite for NCUC
>>>membership. Per the NCUC Bylaws, section 111(h)(11) NCUC membership is
>>>open to:
>>>
>>>ii) An Individual Internet user who is primarily concerned with the
>>>public-interest aspects of domain name policy, and is not represented in
>>>ICANN through membership in another Supporting Organization or GNSO
>>>Stakeholder Group;
>>>
>>>Domain name ownership, again, is not required, contrary to your
>>>assertion. Hope this clarifies things a bit.
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
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