[CCWG-ACCT] Membership thoughts

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Sat Jan 24 17:43:08 UTC 2015


Carlos,

That is my understanding as well.  Also, according to the post that started
this latest unfortunate diversion, at least one "dead boy" -- to quote
verbatim:

"Just to state this early, over my dead boy will the Regional Organizations
of the ccNSO have anything to do or say in this."

Now, let's get back to work.  Perhaps if the good Doctor had answered my
request for his reasoning the first time, Seun wouldn't have made his
(entirely reasonable) observation that his response didn't provide any
reasoning, causing the good Doctor to accuse him of being a troll and
attempting to send hm back to Africa (or at least AFRICANN).

Perhaps (and this is sheer speculation, of course), the good Doctor's
approach to Seun might be due to the fact that Seun is affiliated with
AfriNIC?

In any event, I apologize for any part I've played in dragging this into
the ditch.

We can only advance if we treat each other with respect, understanding that
everyone here has something to contribute and that nobody's perfect.

Greg Shatan

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On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM, "Carlos Raúl G." <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:

> I know he has a lot to do with small babies yes
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> +506 8837 7176 (New Number)
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El ene 24, 2015, a las 10:17 AM, Adebunmi AKINBO <
> akinbo.adebunmi at gmail.com> escribió:
>
> I guess EL is 8.
> -Akinbo.
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 2:47 PM, "Carlos Raúl G." <crg at isoc-cr.org> wrote:
>
>> How old are you?
>>
>> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
>> +506 8837 7176 (New Number)
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>>
>> > El ene 23, 2015, a las 11:36 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>
>> escribió:
>> >
>> > Just to state this early, over my dead boy will the Regional
>> Organizations of the ccNSO have anything to do or say in this.
>> >
>> > I would not mind every (cc)TLD Manager.
>> >
>> > el
>> >
>> > Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>> >
>> >> On Jan 24, 2015, at 01:32, Bruce Tonkin <
>> Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello Greg,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> Just brainstorming: one possibility may be to create "mirror" or
>> "alter ego" organizations (perhaps corporations, perhaps some other form of
>> organized entity), roughly along the lines of the NRO/ASO relationship (the
>> ASO is an ICANN internal structure, while the NRO is not, yet they are
>> essentially "alter egos").  Thus, each SO and AC could create an entity
>> independent of ICANN, but answerable to that SO and AC.  The external
>> entities could then be members of ICANN.
>> >>
>> >> My understanding also is that to be "members"  the organizations would
>> need to be legal entities.   In a few of the examples given in this
>> thread,  the "coordinating" organizations are not yet established as legal
>> entities.
>> >>
>> >> For example, the Number Resource Organization ( https://www.nro.net/)
>> is a coordinating body for the 5 Regional Internet Registries (RIRs).
>>  These five RIRs are legal entities - so it may make more sense for them to
>> be the "members" of ICANN.
>> >>
>> >> My understanding is that groups like the Registrar constituency, and
>> the registrar stakeholder group (http://www.icannregistrars.org/ ) are
>> deliberately not established as legal entities, or as trade associations.
>>   They are coordinating groups - but any legal agreements etc are always
>> between individual registrars as legal entities and ICANN.      Recently a
>> domain name industry association was established - I assume this is a legal
>> entity (http://www.thedna.org/ ).
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Bruce Tonkin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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