[CCWG-ACCT] The big test of effective accountability
Malcolm Hutty
malcolm at linx.net
Thu Jan 29 15:19:53 UTC 2015
On 29/01/2015 14:38, Kieren McCarthy wrote:
> Like this. Excellent food for thought.
>
> Will dig out Steve's mission email - had completely missed it. You have
> the email header handy?
It was introduced as part of the discussion about what "public interest"
meant in the ICANN context.
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/2014-December/000182.html
>
> Kieren
>
> -
> [sent through phone]
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net
> <mailto:malcolm at linx.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 29/01/2015 11:45, Bruce Tonkin wrote:
> > In terms of reviewing the new gTLD program
>
> Kieren may correct me, but I read his essay as being about more than
> just the gTLD program alone, albeit that that was the example given. I
> read it as a general complaint that ICANN tends to be to formalistic,
> and loses sight of the substance of the issue, not only in gTLD
> applications, but often. And I think that he's far from alone in that
> view, especially amongst those who engage with ICANN peripherally
> rather
> than intensively.
>
> > I compare this to a jury process in the legal system. I don’t think
> > you can just ask for another jury to hear the case when the first
> > jury finds against you. There needs to be some basis for the appeal
> > other than that you disagree with the initial finding.
> [...]
> > So careful work is needed to ensure that we have a process that
> > ensures independent reviews of decisions, and also appropriate
> > criteria to initiate a review of a decision.
>
> There I think you get to the heart of the matter.
>
> Kieren's complaint about formalism is interesting insofar as it goes,
> and I think it is a very useful contribution, but it is only identifies
> a problem, it doesn't analyse it or propose a solution. I would like to
> try to work from where Kieren left off.
>
> Kieren, you're a journalist. You live and breathe five-Ws and an H.
> Let's apply that here.
>
> WHAT's the problem? (Excessive legal formalism, resulting in loss of
> sight of the substance of the question).
>
> WHY do we have that problem?
>
> WHO caused it and who can address that?
>
> HOW should it be addressed?
>
> (OK, I'm leaving out "when". Cut me some slack.)
>
>
> WHY do we have the excessive legalistic formalism Kieren complains
> about?
>
> To some extent, this is characteristic of all large bureaucracies. They
> are instinctively defensive, and any individual within them wants to
> show that they discharged their own responsibilities properly even -
> perhaps especially - when they don't, as an individual, necessarily
> agree personally with the organisation position.
>
> But Kieren suggests that ICANN is particularly susceptible to this
> tendency, and I think I agree. An organisation with a highly empowered
> single leader (think Apple under Steve Jobs) can cut through process
> easily. I imagine an early conversation at Apple going like this:
>
> Product Manager: We assembled focus groups in all our major target
> markets to identify the key characteristics of a
> revolutionary, magical new phone. We planted the best
> UI theorists in those groups, to guide them towards
> characteristics and away from mere features. We then
> tested the output with surveys from the best polling
> companies, scientifically designed to ensure all user
> groups had balanced representation. Using their
> answers we ranked and prioritised development goals.
> We hired the best and brightest designers to deliver
> against that design brief, and I proudly present,
> the You-Phone.
>
> Steve Jobs: The user experience sucks and it feels like it was
> designed by a committee. Go back and start again.
>
>
> Would we want ICANN to work like this? No! We'd be rightly terrified of
> leaving that much power in one person's hands. We want ICANN to be run
> by the community, with the Board acting as an arm of the community
> conducting executive oversight, not ruled by any single Global King
> of DNS.
>
> So we create structures designed to ensure that everybody's voice is
> heard and that everybody's interests are taken into account, that
> competing positions are balanced as fairly as it is possible to be, and
> that decisions are demonstrably rationally arrived at on the basis of
> previously agreed consensus policy. And we create more structures to
> appeal cases to on the basis that any of those things failed in this
> instance.
>
> And we end up with the legalistic formalism of which Kieren speaks.
>
> Why?
>
> I suggest that it is because we have such a diverse community, and so
> the only thing we agree on is the process criteria. We agree that
> everybody should be heard. We agree that there should be periods of
> public comment, and then further periods of reply comment. We agree
> that
> policy should require consensus support. But we're so anxious that that
> might be the only thing we agree on that we stop there. And so when a
> decision looks bad, the only thing we have to fall back on is an appeal
> to process.
>
> And mostly the process was followed (at least in a narrow sense) so
> it's
> very hard to reverse the decision, even if you might like to (as Bruce
> has described). And the dissatisfied party becomes embroiled in an
> increasingly embittered proxy fight with an increasingly defensive
> bureaucracy, when everybody knows that the gravamen of the complaint
> isn't really about process at all, it is, as Kieren says, about the
> substance.
>
> Some would say this means we need to "unshackle" the Board, to give
> them
> a wide-ranging and broad discretion to "do the right thing", or
> sometimes "to take decision based in the public interest". Removing or
> reducing external constraints would enable "effective leadership" and
> give the Board "flexibility to respond to a changing world" without
> being "buried in legal challenges".
>
> I consider such an approach to be a trap. Those arguments are the same
> arguments one would make if an avowed enemy of community
> accountability.
> Following such recommendations will lead inevitably to a Board with a
> top-down, paternalistic view of governing the community at best, if not
> something even worse.
>
> Instead, let us look to other I* communities, which do not seem to have
> the same problem, to see how the IETF and the RIRs maintain genuine
> bottom-up community governance, and at the same time remain focused on
> the substance.
>
> Let me tell a story about how one of the RIRs recently dealt with a
> potentially difficult problem.
>
> Towards the end of last year, on the mailing list for the RIPE NCC, a
> Ukrainian who seemed to be a partisan of the government in Kiev, and an
> opponent of the regime in Crimea and Donetsk, raised a point about the
> rules. RIPE NCC rules say that organisations applying from IP addresses
> must supply government issued ID, he said. Why does the RIPE NCC
> continue to serve users in Crimea? Does the RIPE NCC accept the
> validity
> of the Donetsk regime? On what basis and with what justification?
> Surely
> the only proper course is for the RIPE NCC to cease to support
> organisations in Crimea until the legitimately recognised government of
> Ukraine is restored in the region (I am using his voice, you
> understand,
> not my own, but this is a paraphrase, not a direct quote).
>
> The RIPE community immediately saw this intervention for what it was in
> substance: an attempt to embroil the RIPE NCC in the ongoing regional
> conflict, on the side to which he was partisan. It was not really a
> genuine enquiry about the rules, it was an attempt to force a
> legalistic
> interpretation that would subvert their intended substance.
>
> And the RIPE community responded swiftly, vocally, and
> overwhelmingly of
> one view. The mission of RIPE NCC is to support users by helping to
> coordinate the distribution of IP addresses to those that need them.
> Networks in Crimea need IP addresses. This does not change because the
> legitimacy of the claimed government with effective control of the
> region is disputed. Many members of the RIPE Community had considerable
> sympathy with the Ukrainian partisan, and deep personal opposition to
> Russian intervention in Eastern Ukraine. Nonetheless, they agreed on
> one
> thing: the geopolitics of the Ukraine is not the responsibility of the
> RIPE NCC. The rule requiring government issued ID is there to support
> RIPE NCC's mission to coordination IP address distribution so that
> networks are allocated the address space they require (so that RIPE NCC
> can identify the entities to which it has made allocations); to apply
> the same rule to prevent IP address block allocation would be to
> subvert
> the mission. While there is no universally recognised government in
> Eastern Ukraine, the RIPE NCC should accept such ID from entities in
> that area as they are reasonably able to provide.
>
> This story, I think, exemplifies the ability to cut to the substance of
> the issue that Kieren seeks. How is it arrived at? Not by the
> introduction of any strong central leader: the NCC staff and Board was
> almost silent while this discussion played out amongst the community.
> It was arrived at because the community had a strongly unified sense of
> its own limited mission (to support the distribution of IP addresses to
> those that need them, through coordinated allocation policies) and the
> members of that community were overwhelmingly willing to set aside
> their
> own views on a matter outside the scope of that mission when it was
> suggested that some other reasoning requires an effect fundamentally
> contrary to the mission. We will not have an argument about whether
> RIPE
> NCC should act to /limit/ the allocation of IP addresses to entities in
> Crimea, not even dressed in the coat of a rules interpretation. Maybe
> action should be taken against the regime in Crimea - but not by RIPE
> NCC. RIPE NCC will discharge its own mission, and leave the geopolitics
> to others.
>
> Is this not the same culture we want to inculcate in ICANN?
>
> I believe that story exemplifies the strength of the RIRs, and
> describes
> exactly what we want from ICANN too.
>
> And it is very far from the ICANN Kieren describes.
>
> WHO can bring this change about?
>
> Only us.
>
> When we look to Kieren's complaint, and see how far short ICANN
> falls of
> the strong culture shows by the RIRs and the IETF, the "fault" lies
> with
> us, the community. We don't *want* the Board, or the CEO, or the staff
> to come up with a dramatically developed version of the ICANN Mission
> that will then overrule existing processes and policies.
> The Mission must be developed by, and founded in, the community itself.
>
> What we need is for the community to develop a much clearer idea of the
> Mission, and an exposition of what that means and how it is to be
> applied. Then all the accountability structures we create, the Review
> Boards and Reconsideration Panels and Ombudsmen and the rest, they will
> have a proper standard for review. Not a sterile standard that looks
> only to bare process, but one that asks "Is this consistent with the
> fundamental mission?"
>
> Consider how this might work in practice.
>
> For .gay, there are many objections one might make. One might say the
> proposed registrar was not suitable - but that should only lead to the
> selection of an alternative, or the imposition of tighter control, not
> to refusal to delegate. If you're not confident in the registrar you
> might impose behavioural controls (e.g. to prevent limitation of
> supply)
> or structural controls (e.g. a shorter contract, to require
> renunciation
> of any presumption of renewal of the registry contract etc) or some
> combination of the two. There will be plenty of room for arguments
> about
> the best way to proceed.
>
> But arguments that resolve to (or are recognisable as a mere pretext
> for) the claim that .gay ought not to exist can be dismissed: ICANN's
> mission is to make domains available, not to prevent their
> availability.
>
> I promised a HOW.
>
> Here is HOW I think we should proceed.
>
> In our Frankfurt face-to-face we constructed, yet again, a map of
> possible new structures, and most of the focus went on that. But there
> was also a slot on it for the question of clarifying the mission, as
> the
> basis for review. A few weeks ago, on this list, Steve DelBianco made a
> very valuable start, suggesting a new codification of the mission. That
> contribution has passed almost without notice.
>
> I don't necessarily think Steve's formulation is perfect, but it's a
> lot
> better than anything else I've yet seen, and it has the virtue of being
> a contribution on this critical subject, almost alone. Let us work
> together on that, to build that common shared sense of Mission.
> Not an infinitely broad Mission, intended to allow any possible action
> in an unknowable future, but a narrow mission, intended to guide, to
> help make decisions which are choices, that can, as Bruce says, act
> as a
> meaningful criterion for review of decisions.
>
> Let us have the courage to believe we can build a strong consensus on a
> meaningfully limited mission, not merely on narrow questions of
> process.
> If we can succeed in that, we can succeed in creating an ICANN that is
> meaningfully accountable to the community on matters of essential
> substance, not merely failures of process.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Malcolm.
>
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