[CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for Paris

[Nigel Roberts]

Phil

I know this was 15 years ago, but ICANN's role in redelegating a certain 
ccTLD without legal authority was exactly the same behaviour.

So how can we draft accountability mechanisms in 3 motnhs when we've 
failed for 15 years to do so.



On 07/15/2015 07:13 PM, Phil Corwin wrote:
> Just read your story, Kieren.
>
> Excellent work – and very troubling in its revelations.
>
> Certainly has implications for the final accountability package.
>
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> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kieren McCarthy
> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:14 PM
> To: Accountability Cross Community
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Agenda for Paris
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> I agree re: IRP, especially given the timely nature of the recent .Africa decision.
>
> As you are probably aware, significant portions of the final "independent" report were redacted.
>
> I got hold of the unredacted version and it shows that ICANN staff systematically removed all mentions of the fact that it drafted a letter for the AUC that it then accepted as evidence of sufficient support to sign a contract with AUC's chosen applicant.
>
> In other words, completely failed to act "neutrally and objectively with integrity and fairness".
>
> I find it all the more remarkable that these redactions happened last week, in the middle of this accountability process.
>
> Full story: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/15/icann_dot_africa_review/
>
>
>
> Kieren
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org<mailto:avri at acm.org>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While I do not see the risks in the same way Malcolm does, I do agree we
> need to give more time to IRP.  Not only is it a critical part of the
> puzzle, one that is in the news more and more, we have not really dealt
> with the issues that have come up in WP3 and elsewhere about IRP in
> terms of appealing staff actions and whether it can be use for appeals
> against an ACSO's [non]actions.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 15-Jul-15 05:22, Malcolm Hutty wrote:
>> Dear Chairs,
>>
>> I have just seen the proposed agenda for Paris, and I am concerned that
>> we will be devoting an excessive proportion of the time to the Community
>> Empowerment side, while leaving insufficient time to address the
>> extremely important issues on direct accountability, including in
>> particular IRP improvements.
>>
>> I see that we don't get to a session on the IRP until the afternoon of
>> the second day, when only an hour is scheduled, plus a half-hour for
>> cross-check with CWG requirements.
>>
>> I both fear that this may not be enough, and also that this structure
>> will focus consideration of the models excessively on how the deliver
>> community empowerment and marginalise consideration of their effect on
>> direct accountability.
>>
>> I had hoped that the paper analysing Stress Test 23 would be added to
>> the reading list (see url [1]), which shows potential weaknesses in our
>> IRP proposal. I would encourage colleagues to read it (or at least look
>> at the diagram!).
>>
>> I would like to ask you for the opportunity to present this paper during
>> the Stress Test session on Friday morning.
>>
>> [1] http://tinyurl.com/pnnxuyr
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Malcolm Hutty.
>>
>
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