[CCWG-ACCT] Communique - revised - any feedback by midnight Argentina time

Dr Eberhard W Lisse epilisse at gmail.com
Sat Jun 20 11:06:02 UTC 2015


Dear Co-Chairs,

please take note that I am willing to volunteer as the Rapporteur for the Minority Opinion(s).

greetings, el

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Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s


> On Jun 20, 2015, at 07:40, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the Draft Communique
> For the review of what we have done and for having a fresh look to the process, we need to act more openly, democratically and neutrally.
> From the very beginning I warned  the group that the Proposed model with UA does not work ,
> I asked to consider something more practical , less complex and workable.
> Unfortunately ,I was pushed to be silent as some people did not like the vision that I had with respect to the workability of that method /concept . Even at some meeting , calls ,I was unfairly and unexpectedly interrupted at various occasion and  was not allowed to freely express my view .The above course of action was not  a healthy approach.
> I strongly suggest that we seriously change our working method in particular ,the role of the chair and few other participants  in order to allow every body to freely and openly expresses himself or herself .The role of the chair should be limited to just conduct the meeting in a friendly, fair and democratic manner. We need to respect each and every person during the debate
> We have only one more opportunity and must use it properly .
> Good luck
> Best Regards
> Kavouss
> 
> 2015-06-20 4:07 GMT+02:00 Dr Eberhard W Lisse <epilisse at gmail.com>:
>> When EXACTLY was this drafted?
>> 
>> el
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPhone 5s
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 17:10, Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz> wrote:
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>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> Attached in doc and pdf are the updated communique - clean, and showing all the changes tracked. Mathieu finalised this.
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>>> I've also pasted the clean version below for easy reading.
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>>> Any comments or issues please to the list or the co-chairs by midnight Argentina time (around seven hours from time of sending).
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> Jordan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Members and participants of the Cross Community Working Group on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability) met in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on June 19, 2015.
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>>> The CCWG face-to-face meeting in Buenos Aires, Argentina, was attended in-person by XXXX members and participants, as well as by a number of participants and observers that joined the meeting remotely using the virtual meeting room. XXX Advisors also participated.
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>>> The group discussed the summaries it had earlier prepared of the comments received from the community during the first public comment period on its initial draft report (https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-accountability-draft-proposal-2015-05-04-en) and can report the following:
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>>> Broad support was received for the overall accountability architecture proposed, based on on 4 building blocks, i.e. an empowered community, the Board, the Bylaws and the Independent Review Process.
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>>> Most comments considered the proposals would be improvements to ICANN’s current accountability mechanisms. 
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>>> Several commenters recommended the CCWG take a more detailed look at the accountability of the community itself (the SOs and ACs) and also to ensure that ICANN is accountable to all stakeholders, including those outside ICANN.
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>>> While most commenters expressed support for the recommendations, some expressed concerns primarily regarding implementation details, legal implications and complexity, as well as on the underlying costs and risks associated with the proposals. 
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>>> The CCWG values the input received so far and will continue working to refine its initial draft report.
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>>> While encouraged by the support received on the overall approach, the group acknowledges the concerns expressed and will give due consideration to suggestions and concerns as it develops a revised proposal in preparation for the upcoming second public comment period.
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>>> With regards to the community empowerment mechanism, the CCWG considered various models presented in the meeting and acknowledged commonality of views with regards to expectations of such models, including the need to set up mutual accountability, and enhancements to openness and diversity.
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>>> In particular, a number of commenters have raised concerns with the reference model. In that model, SOs and ACs would be required to set up separate legal entities, such as formally registering unincorporated associations, as their legal vehicle to exercise community powers. Feedback suggested that the community sees this model as too complex. The CCWG has analyzed these comments carefully and will now focus its work on a refined model. This fresh approach, provisionally called the Empowered SO/AC model, gives the community comparable authority while not adding legal entities separate from the SOs and ACs.
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>>> The CCWG also considered public comments related to the dependencies with the CWG-Stewardship's final proposal. As the CWG’s proposal is under consideration by Chartering organizations, the CCWG notes that each of the items that the CWG has identified as critical to its proposal received overall support from the community. None of the comments suggested that CWG requirements could or should not be met. 
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>>> The CCWG will share these outcomes and considerations with the various groups and communities during ICANN 53. The group looks forward to continuing the fruitful exchanges that inform further deliberations towards a second round of public comment, which is expected to be published by the end of July.
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>>> Note: video summaries of the basic accountability approach are available:
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>>> -       English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h8i2exC6HA
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>>> -       French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodtRRNymkU 
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>>> -       Spanish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLALPEOlrHk)
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>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Jordan Carter
>>> 
>>> Chief Executive 
>>> InternetNZ
>>> 
>>> 04 495 2118 (office) | +64 21 442 649 (mob)
>>> jordan at internetnz.net.nz 
>>> Skype: jordancarter
>>> 
>>> A better world through a better Internet 
>>> 
>>> <Draft Comunique v2.docx>
>>> <Draft Comunique v2.pdf>
>>> <Draft Comunique v2 clean.docx>
>>> <Draft Comunique v2 clean.pdf>
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