[CCWG-ACCT] New topics / concerns - initiating discussions

[Dr Eberhard W Lisse]

There you go, Becky.

And you wonder why I am concerned?

el


On 2015-06-23 14:23 , Finn Petersen wrote:
> Dear Becky,
> 
> I expect that redelegation also will be in accordance with the GAC
> principles as well as national legislation on redelegation.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Finn
> 
> Sendt fra min iPad
> 
> Den 23/06/2015 kl. 14.03 skrev Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz
> <mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>>:
> 
>> Eberhard, 
>>
>> As we have all heard, the Board will approve the FOI this week, which
>> will govern the manner in which RFC 1591 is to be applied by IANA.  If
>> in the future IANA fails to follow RFC 1591 as interpreted by the FOI,
>>  the affected ccTLD manager could challenge that action as a breach of
>> ICANN’s obligation to follow existing policy.   Of course, every ccTLD
>> manager has whatever additional rights it has, and no one proposes to
>> constrain those.
>>
>> So, other than (a) the FOI safeguards that are about to be adopted and
>> (b) your request for legal work to understand whether or not the USG
>> has the right to manage IANA in the first place and to transfer that
>> authority in the second place, what do you want?  Could you please be
>> concrete?  I have the greatest respect for your substantive views, but
>> I am honestly unclear about what you are after.
>>
>> Becky
>>
>> J. Beckwith Burr
>>
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>>
>> From: Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na>>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 6:41 AM
>> To: Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
>> Cc: "directors at omadhina.net <mailto:directors at omadhina.net>"
>> <directors at omadhina.net <mailto:directors at omadhina.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] New topics / concerns - initiating discussions
>>
>> Not an original attempt at all, call "Interesting" but not deal with
>> the substance.
>>
>> Even if we assumed that we could compel ICANN to do our bidding after
>> they got what they want, which as past behavior is a good indicator
>> for future behavior, I am not convinced we will, I remain not in
>> agreement with putting something in just so we can make the deadline. 
>>
>> Or because the Intellectual Property community and other big
>> commercial interests can fund lobbyists, this particular one not even
>> being a chartered member, to try and drive the process.
>>
>> That ICANN is so enthusiastic with this should make one think. 
>>
>> el
>> -- 
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 00:53, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mathieu,
>>>
>>> Thank you for these.  While these are interesting issues, I think
>>> that our first priority should be discussing and refining the
>>> Empowered SO/AC Proposal.  This is the primary hurdle to a proposal
>>> that is likely to satisfy a broad spectrum of stakeholders.
>>>
>>> These will be interesting discussion topics, and may be great Work
>>> Stream 2 subjects, but we have ask what we need to resolve so that
>>> Work Stream 1 and thus our Proposal work.  If there is time, we can
>>> then discuss these points.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Mathieu Weill
>>> <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Dear Colleagues,
>>>
>>>     As discussed last friday when we reviewed the public comments,
>>>     some of the feedback we have received require us to consider
>>>     whether and how we should address several topics :
>>>     - staff accountability culture
>>>     - Board duties and roles
>>>     - enhancing diversity
>>>     - enhancing SO/AC accountability
>>>
>>>     In order to kick start discussions on these topics, we have
>>>     assembled one pagers attempting to describe each issue (based
>>>     essentially on comments we have received) as well some of the
>>>     potential actions that were suggested. Please note that these are
>>>     discussion papers and in no way reflect any "position" on the
>>>     matters.
>>>
>>>     It is anticipated that we could have initial discussions on these
>>>     topics In our upcoming work sessions. But this mailing list is
>>>     also an appropriate place to share your reflections on these
>>>     matters, as I noted Jordan already did on another thread.
>>>
>>>     Best regards,
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Mathieu WEILL
>>>
>> [...]
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