[CCWG-ACCT] New topics / concerns - initiating discussions

Tue Jun 23 18:08:27 UTC 2015

Chris,

Thx for reminding me of Clause 1.3.

Best,

Finn

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Den 23/06/2015 kl. 15.03 skrev Chris Disspain <ceo at auda.org.au<mailto:ceo at auda.org.au>>:

Finn,

With specific reference to the GAC principles may I respectfully refer you to Clause 1.3 of the preamble….

These principles are intended as a guide to the relationships between Governments, their ccTLD and ICANN. They are not intended to be binding and need both Governments and Registries voluntarily to agree to apply them within their legal framework. If either the Government or the Registry decide not to adopt the principles, this cannot be held against the Registry, and the Registry still has a valid existence.

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On 24 Jun 2015, at 03:23 , Finn Petersen <FinPet at erst.dk<mailto:FinPet at erst.dk>> wrote:

Dear Becky,

I expect that redelegation also will be in accordance with the GAC principles as well as national legislation on redelegation.

Best,

Finn

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Den 23/06/2015 kl. 14.03 skrev Burr, Becky <Becky.Burr at neustar.biz<mailto:Becky.Burr at neustar.biz>>:

Eberhard,

As we have all heard, the Board will approve the FOI this week, which will govern the manner in which RFC 1591 is to be applied by IANA.  If in the future IANA fails to follow RFC 1591 as interpreted by the FOI,  the affected ccTLD manager could challenge that action as a breach of ICANN’s obligation to follow existing policy.   Of course, every ccTLD manager has whatever additional rights it has, and no one proposes to constrain those.

So, other than (a) the FOI safeguards that are about to be adopted and (b) your request for legal work to understand whether or not the USG has the right to manage IANA in the first place and to transfer that authority in the second place, what do you want?  Could you please be concrete?  I have the greatest respect for your substantive views, but I am honestly unclear about what you are after.

Becky

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From: Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.na<mailto:el at lisse.na>>
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 6:41 AM
To: Accountability Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org<mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
Cc: "directors at omadhina.net<mailto:directors at omadhina.net>" <directors at omadhina.net<mailto:directors at omadhina.net>>
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] New topics / concerns - initiating discussions

Not an original attempt at all, call "Interesting" but not deal with the substance.

Even if we assumed that we could compel ICANN to do our bidding after they got what they want, which as past behavior is a good indicator for future behavior, I am not convinced we will, I remain not in agreement with putting something in just so we can make the deadline.

Or because the Intellectual Property community and other big commercial interests can fund lobbyists, this particular one not even being a chartered member, to try and drive the process.

That ICANN is so enthusiastic with this should make one think.

el
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On Jun 23, 2015, at 00:53, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com<mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:

Mathieu,

Thank you for these.  While these are interesting issues, I think that our first priority should be discussing and refining the Empowered SO/AC Proposal.  This is the primary hurdle to a proposal that is likely to satisfy a broad spectrum of stakeholders.

These will be interesting discussion topics, and may be great Work Stream 2 subjects, but we have ask what we need to resolve so that Work Stream 1 and thus our Proposal work.  If there is time, we can then discuss these points.

Greg

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr<mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,

As discussed last friday when we reviewed the public comments, some of the feedback we have received require us to consider whether and how we should address several topics :
- staff accountability culture
- Board duties and roles
- enhancing diversity
- enhancing SO/AC accountability

In order to kick start discussions on these topics, we have assembled one pagers attempting to describe each issue (based essentially on comments we have received) as well some of the potential actions that were suggested. Please note that these are discussion papers and in no way reflect any "position" on the matters.

It is anticipated that we could have initial discussions on these topics In our upcoming work sessions. But this mailing list is also an appropriate place to share your reflections on these matters, as I noted Jordan already did on another thread.

Best regards,

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Mathieu WEILL
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