[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC

Sun May 3 15:07:20 UTC 2015

I agree with Jon and Carlos.

It should also be noted that the AOC refers to ICANN as being a
"multi-stakeholder private sector led organization with input from the
public." I read the term 'private' liberally to include, for example,
private civil society organisations where the principle distinctive purpose
of the word 'private' is to ensure ICANN does not become, e.g., a
'multi-stakeholder public sector run organization'.

In addition to substance I would suggest that the day before document
delivery is not an appropriate time to be making such substantive changes
to the document, changes that run counter to ICANN's current bylaws and
AOC. Perhaps it might be best to address such concerns during the public
comment period.

Best,

Ed

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:41 PM, "Carlos Raúl G." <carlosraulg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 Jon
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> +506 8837 7176 (New Number)
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El may 3, 2015, a las 8:14, Jon Nevett <jon at donuts.co> escribió:
>
> With respect, I don't support the deletion of the words "private" or
> "private-led" in the context of the concept of multi-stakeholderism and the
> report.
>
> It is clear from ICANN Bylaws (
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/governance/bylaws-en) that the
> organization is to be led privately, while at the same time receiving
> important advice from the governments.
>
> "Section 2  Core Values
> 11. While remaining rooted in the private sector, recognizing that
> governments and public authorities are responsible for public policy and
> duly taking into account governments' or public authorities'
> recommendations."
>
> Similarly, the NTIA announcement on the transition specifically mentions
> that it should be privately led:  "The Commerce Department’s June 10, 1998 *Statement
> of Policy* <http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/publications/6_5_98dns.pdf>
> stated that the U.S. Government 'is committed to a transition that will
> allow the private sector to take leadership for DNS management.'”
>
>
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/press-release/2014/ntia-announces-intent-transition-key-internet-domain-name-functions
>
> Best,
>
> Jon
>
> On May 2, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Co chair,
> The message that I sent you and supported by others needs to be
> implemented.
> I strongly oppose top any discriminatory terms, expressions motivations
> attepmting to polarize the community in " Private led " por " public led"
> or any other divding terms to be used as an adjective for Multistakeholder.
> It is to be noted that a group of people even disagree with multistakeholer
> approach .Then let us try to convince them that the multistakeholder
> approach is widely agreed by many but and but without the use of and
> adjective such as " private led" .
> If this important issue is not taken on board there will be considerable
> opposition to the entire report.
> This is the issue of " to be " or " not to be" a biary approach yes with
> the report provided that the term " private led" in 4 or 5 places in the
> report is deleted .
> You are kindly urged to acknowledge receipt of this message and ensure of
> the proper ,neutral, impartial treatment of all categories of multistake
> holder and
> Regards
> Kavouss
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Olga Cavalli <olgacavalli at gmail.com>
> Date: 2015-05-02 16:06 GMT+02:00
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2
> May at 01:00 UTC
> To: Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
> Cc: Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>, Thomas Rickert <
> rickert at anwaelte.de>, Mathieu Weill <Mathieu.Weill at afnic.fr>, León Felipe
> Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>, Accountability Cross Community <
> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>
>
> Dear all,
> thanks for the draft.
> I support Kavouss comments and suggested edits.
> Regards
> Olga
>
> 2015-05-02 4:35 GMT-03:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>
> IMPORTANT AND URGENT
>> Dear co-chairs,
>> Thank you very much for your enormous and tireless efforts to put this
>> doc. for final comments
>> I have had many comments but I could not finish the edits till now.
>> I therefore do not wish to delay the work.
>> However, I have one VERY IMPORTANT edit that I raised it in my last
>> e-mail.
>> That edit is relating to a reference to ICANN or Internet Process as
>> being «private led  multistakeholder”  organization or process.
>> This is a mistake. a big mistake. There is no such preference to one
>> category of stakeholder over other categories of stakeholder (private or
>> public) .
>> I raised this matter at one of our call and asked for deletion of that
>> term.
>> All stakeholder, irrespective being private, public, and etc. *SHALL * be
>> treated equally. This issue was raised at various occasions by NTIA
>> indicating / emphasizing that no single category of the stakeholder should
>> benefit from preference over other categories of stakeholders .This term
>> was used at very early stage of the introduction of the ICANN into the
>> business. Over the time when we discussed that the process should be
>> inclusive, democratic, then it was agreed by everybody that no category of
>> the stakeholder should have any preference, what so ever, or should have
>>   a preferred treatment over other categories of the stakeholders.
>> In view of the above, I urge you to  kindly correct such a big mistake
>> which if it is not corrected would put us in a very delicate situation that
>> we did not respect impartiality and neutrality in treating  various
>> categories of the stakeholders.
>> There are 4 or 5 times that such a reference to »private led
>> multistakeholder  are referred to in the doc.
>> Pls kindly make a simple «find" check and delete all that.  Term in
>> other part of doc. whenever, so as reference is maded to multistakeholder
>> there is no such an incorrect and discriminative preference.
>> Regards
>>
>> Kavouss
>>
>> 2015-05-02 9:01 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> I have not finish edits .I am on page 50. However, in view of time time
>>> constrain, I have an important edit that is attached.
>>> The same edit should be carried forward elsewhere  throughout the entire
>>> document . please then search for " private sector led " and DELETE THAT .
>>> I mentioned in one of the call .See Attached doc.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> 2015-05-02 3:34 GMT+02:00 Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>:
>>>
>>>>  Thanks Grace.
>>>>
>>>>  Dear CCWG,
>>>> Attached please find some proposed edits for consideration.
>>>>
>>>>  Best,
>>>>
>>>>  Sam
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:52 PM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2
>>>> May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Hi all,
>>>> Just a reminder than edits, comments are due in approximately 3h. Thank
>>>> you to those who sent edits earlier today.  If you must send late edits,
>>>> please send a note to the Chairs* with staff in copy* to give us
>>>> notice that your comments will be delayed. Best to stick to the deadline,
>>>> but we know everyone is working hard to get this draft report ready, and
>>>> we’d rather get your comments than not at all.
>>>> Have a good weekend,
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:19 AM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  We sent the V10 draft report earlier today (in UTC) but have been
>>>> notified that, in some cases, the files are too large to download from the
>>>> email attachments. As a reminder, the draft (redline and clean versions)
>>>> are posted on the Wiki:
>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Draft+Report.
>>>>
>>>>  Looking forward to receiving your comments and edits,
>>>> Grace
>>>>
>>>>   From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
>>>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 9:22 PM
>>>> To: Accountability Cross Community <
>>>> accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
>>>>
>>>>   Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  Here attached is the CCWG-Accountability Draft Report V10. I have
>>>> attached a redline and a clean version (in Word and PDF).
>>>>
>>>>  Version 10 incorporates the following:
>>>>
>>>>    - Changes from the CCWG-Accountability call on Thursday 30 April at
>>>>    05:00 UTC
>>>>    - Edits from legal counsel (Sidley and Adler)
>>>>    - Approval from the CWG-Stewardship Chairs/Client Committee
>>>>    regarding incorporation of CWG-Stewardship recommendations
>>>>    - Edits from Chairs and Rapporteurs
>>>>
>>>> Please send your edits, comments, etc to the mailing list by*Saturday
>>>> 2 May 01:00 UTC* (24h from now). Staff will incorporate the edits over
>>>> the weekend so as to release a final version for Public Comment on Monday,
>>>> 4 May. *If possible, edits are appreciate in track changes in the
>>>> clean version so that they are clearly marked and visible. *There will
>>>> be professional formatting and copyediting done before publication, so we
>>>> suggest that your time my be best spent by focusing on the
>>>> substance-related edits.
>>>>
>>>>  Also, please remember to submit your feedback regarding the XPlane
>>>> graphics by Saturday as well. Adam will send a reminder re: XPlane.
>>>>
>>>>  Almost there!
>>>> — Grace
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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