[CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
Carlos Raúl G.
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Mon May 4 13:39:00 UTC 2015
Agree with Ed and Paul 100%
Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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> El may 4, 2015, a las 7:20, Paul Rosenzweig <paul.rosenzweig at redbranchconsulting.com> escribió:
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> Of course, all the governments want to eliminate the phrase “private sector” from discussion, even though it has been part of the ICANN Bylaws and AOC for dozens of years. I would too if I were in their shoes. As a non-government person who reads the NTIA conditions as critically emphasizing only one thing – the absence of future government control – I would see the elimination of a phrase that has been in the system for a long time as signifying a change in practice. Clearly the governments do too – that’s why they want it eliminated. If we make this change we signal to the world that the governments will have a bigger role than they do now, and we jeopardize the transition altogether. Ed Morris is right – this is a change we should not make …
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> From: Perez Galindo, Rafael [mailto:RPEREZGA at minetur.es]
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2015 8:08 AM
> To: Julia Katja Wolman; Avri Doria; 'Kavouss Arasteh'; accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Hi All
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> Spain would also like to stress our support for the use of the term “multistakeholder” without additional qualifiers.
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> Best
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> Rafa
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> De: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] En nombre de Julia Katja Wolman
> Enviado el: lunes, 04 de mayo de 2015 13:34
> Para: Avri Doria; 'Kavouss Arasteh'; accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Asunto: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Dear all
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> I would like to echo my GAC colleagues regarding the definition of the term “multistakeholder” to be used in the report. We (DK) agree that using the term “multistakeholder “ without the qualifiers is preferable as the term in itself embraces all stakeholders.
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> Fra: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] På vegne af Kavouss Arasteh
> Sendt: 2. maj 2015 18:16
> Til: Avri Doria
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> Emne: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Dear Avri,
> YES and Yes . I fully agree with what you said we just need to mention everywhere referenced " in a multistakeholder button up approach without any refernce to private or public..We are emerging more and more and should refrain to motivate any division or polarisation.
> Regards
> Kavouss
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> 2015-05-02 17:28 GMT+02:00 Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>:
> Hi,
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> I too agree that the report should take a multistakeholder view that treats all ICANN stakeholders equally.
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> I do not think that it is necessary that that all stakeholders decide to do things in the same manner, but that the various options should be open to all stakeholders on an overall equal footing. I do not believe that all stakeholders have the same roles and responsibilities in each phase of every operation. But in the overall process there needs to be a balanced and equal footing. This is a goal in my view in all Internet Governance (IG) mechanisms. ICANN is an organization that is closer to doing this in a open and equal footing manner than most organizations in IG. I think that it is is important in this Accountabilty work to be clear about that continuing goal.
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> I do not, however, wish to accidentally fall into the pattern where there is parity between 2 stakeholder grouping: private and public. Rather we need the full multistakeholder mix. I think we should mention neither public nor private and just mention the diversity of stakeholder groups involved in ICANN. The word multistakeholder should be sufficient.
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> avri
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> On 02-May-15 10:06, Olga Cavalli wrote:
> Dear all,
> thanks for the draft.
> I support Kavouss comments and suggested edits.
> Regards
> Olga
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> 2015-05-02 4:35 GMT-03:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
> IMPORTANT AND URGENT
> Dear co-chairs,
> Thank you very much for your enormous and tireless efforts to put this doc. for final comments
> I have had many comments but I could not finish the edits till now.
> I therefore do not wish to delay the work.
> However, I have one VERY IMPORTANT edit that I raised it in my last e-mail.
> That edit is relating to a reference to ICANN or Internet Process as being «private led multistakeholder” organization or process.
> This is a mistake. a big mistake. There is no such preference to one category of stakeholder over other categories of stakeholder (private or public) .
> I raised this matter at one of our call and asked for deletion of that term.
> All stakeholder, irrespective being private, public, and etc. SHALL be treated equally. This issue was raised at various occasions by NTIA indicating / emphasizing that no single category of the stakeholder should benefit from preference over other categories of stakeholders .This term was used at very early stage of the introduction of the ICANN into the business. Over the time when we discussed that the process should be inclusive, democratic, then it was agreed by everybody that no category of the stakeholder should have any preference, what so ever, or should have a preferred treatment over other categories of the stakeholders.
> In view of the above, I urge you to kindly correct such a big mistake which if it is not corrected would put us in a very delicate situation that we did not respect impartiality and neutrality in treating various categories of the stakeholders.
> There are 4 or 5 times that such a reference to »private led multistakeholder are referred to in the doc.
> Pls kindly make a simple «find" check and delete all that. Term in other part of doc. whenever, so as reference is maded to multistakeholder there is no such an incorrect and discriminative preference.
> Regards
> Kavouss
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> 2015-05-02 9:01 GMT+02:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
> Dear All,
> I have not finish edits .I am on page 50. However, in view of time time constrain, I have an important edit that is attached.
> The same edit should be carried forward elsewhere throughout the entire document . please then search for " private sector led " and DELETE THAT . I mentioned in one of the call .See Attached doc.
> Regards
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> 2015-05-02 3:34 GMT+02:00 Samantha Eisner <Samantha.Eisner at icann.org>:
> Thanks Grace.
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> Dear CCWG,
> Attached please find some proposed edits for consideration.
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> Best,
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> Sam
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> From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 3:52 PM
> To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Edits due in 3h: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Hi all,
> Just a reminder than edits, comments are due in approximately 3h. Thank you to those who sent edits earlier today. If you must send late edits, please send a note to the Chairs with staff in copy to give us notice that your comments will be delayed. Best to stick to the deadline, but we know everyone is working hard to get this draft report ready, and we’d rather get your comments than not at all.
> Have a good weekend,
> Grace
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> From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2015 at 11:19 AM
> To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Dear all,
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> We sent the V10 draft report earlier today (in UTC) but have been notified that, in some cases, the files are too large to download from the email attachments. As a reminder, the draft (redline and clean versions) are posted on the Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/Draft+Report.
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> Looking forward to receiving your comments and edits,
> Grace
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> From: Grace Abuhamad <grace.abuhamad at icann.org>
> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 9:22 PM
> To: Accountability Cross Community <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
> Subject: V10 DRAFT for your review by 2 May at 01:00 UTC
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> Dear all,
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> Here attached is the CCWG-Accountability Draft Report V10. I have attached a redline and a clean version (in Word and PDF).
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> Version 10 incorporates the following:
> Changes from the CCWG-Accountability call on Thursday 30 April at 05:00 UTC
> Edits from legal counsel (Sidley and Adler)
> Approval from the CWG-Stewardship Chairs/Client Committee regarding incorporation of CWG-Stewardship recommendations
> Edits from Chairs and Rapporteurs
> Please send your edits, comments, etc to the mailing list bySaturday 2 May 01:00 UTC (24h from now). Staff will incorporate the edits over the weekend so as to release a final version for Public Comment on Monday, 4 May. If possible, edits are appreciate in track changes in the clean version so that they are clearly marked and visible. There will be professional formatting and copyediting done before publication, so we suggest that your time my be best spent by focusing on the substance-related edits.
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> Also, please remember to submit your feedback regarding the XPlane graphics by Saturday as well. Adam will send a reminder re: XPlane.
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> Almost there!
> — Grace
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