[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Draft Update document for CCWG call

[Greg Shatan]

I don't believe Page 18 addresses my concerns.  It says:

The petition can only be started in the SO or AC that nominated the
Director.

It does not limit who can start that petition.  As such, Justin Bieber could
start a petition (or Seun Ojedeji -- oops I see you are are member of NCSG
(along with ALAC and the ASO) so you could start a petition almost anywhere
regardless of restrictions) in the GNSO to remove Bruce Tonkin (a
GNSO-appointed Director).  So, my concern stands.....

If there's something I'm missing on page 18, please let me know.

Greg

On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sent from my Asus Zenfone2
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> On 13 Nov 2015 18:08, "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > A few quick comments, since that's all there's time for under this
> plan.  I was only able to review my prior comments against this draft; no
> time for a full read.
> >
> > 1. Page 11: Petition Process: Is it clear that any individual,
> regardless of affiliation can begin a petition in any AC/SO for every
> power? Even removing that AC/SO's appointed director? For example, can
> Justin Bieber start a petition in the GNSO to remove Bruce Tonkin?  If that
> is what we agreed to, never mind.  It just strikes me as odd, and I haven't
> seen it expressed this way before. (I think we used the passive voice
> before, which did not identify the "actor" or any limitation on their
> identity or affiliation.)
> >
> SO: Page 18 addresses your fears.
>
> Cheers!
>
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Sabine,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think that this is version issue. The version of the document you are
> referencing is the incorrect one.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Indeed, it was part of the transparency issues mentioned in Dublin and,
> during the CCWG call #65 we specifically discussed the item (see the slides
> here :
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/56144581/WP2%20Issues%202%20Nov%202015.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1446529282000&api=v2)
> and acknowledged that there we had received several requests to address
> this issue in WS2.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you for raising this consistency issue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Mathieu
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> De : accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] De la part de
> Sabine.Meyer at bmwi.bund.de
> >> Envoyé : vendredi 13 novembre 2015 15:01
> >> À : turcotte.bernard at gmail.com
> >> Cc : accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> >> Objet : Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Draft Update document for CCWG call
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Bernard,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> thank you for updating and re-sending the draft!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To my understanding, the list of WS2 items on p 29 does not yet reflect
> the current status of discussions if indeed the latest version is the
> following:
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/50823981/AJed%2020151026%20Items%20for%20Consideration%20in%20Work%20Stream%202.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1446576372000&api=v2
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In that case, “ICANN’s interaction with governments” is currently not
> part of the draft.
> >>
> >> Thank you for considering this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sabine Meyer
> >>
> >> International Digital and Postal Policy, Internet Governance
> >>
> >> Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy
> >>
> >> Villemombler Strasse 76, 53123 Bonn
> >>
> >> GERMANY
> >>
> >> Phone: +49 228 99615-2948
> >>
> >> Fax: + 49 228 99615-2964
> >>
> >> E-Mail: sabine.meyer at bmwi.bund.de
> >>
> >> Internet: http://www.bmwi.de
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Von: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] Im Auftrag von Bernard
> Turcotte
> >> Gesendet: Freitag, 13. November 2015 00:04
> >> An: Accountability Cross Community
> >> Betreff: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG - Draft Update document for CCWG call
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As per Mathieu's email of earlier today please find the draft Proposal
> Update document which will be discussed at the next CCWG meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The document is going to professional formatting as we speak - so any
> issues of layout, fonts etc. will be addressed by a specialist.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> This document also represents a consideration of all the comments
> received with respect to the previous version - not that all of these were
> accepted, but a majority were taken on.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We apologize for the lateness of the document, but as you will notice
> we have put significant efforts into recasting this per the comments.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bernard Turcotte
> >>
> >> ICANN Staff Support for the CCWG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> for the CCWG Co-chairs.
> >>
> >>
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