[CCWG-ACCT] Update from Brussels

[Paul Szyndler]

Hi Mathieu,

I appreciate that the authors of this statement are best positioned to
respond to my questions.
However, I do not have direct access to CENTR/HLIG deliberations. As the
statement was posted to this list, I responded here.

With regard to ccTLD participation - I would never diminish our individual
or collective roles.
My point was that a minority of us are currently actively involved.
I never suggested no one else was engaged - I just listed three names as
examples.
Your additions have increased my initial reference group from 3 to 8. Of
240+ ccTLDs.
And that illustrates my point about community-wide consensus.

I agree with you that a consensus view from GAC appears significant but
cannot comment further as I am not party to their internal deliberations.

In conclusion, if you feel my questions should best be directed to lists
that I am not a participant on, please do so.
The response would be valuable in furthering my / our understanding of the
position of a significant grouping of stakeholders

Regards,

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: Mathieu Weill [mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr]
Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015 7:10 PM
To: Paul Szyndler <paul.szyndler at auda.org.au>;
accountability-cross-community at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Update from Brussels

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your appreciation of this statement. I don't think we should
spend too much time on interpretation or speculation regarding statements
motives in this group. Statements are statements, they are useful to be
aware of, and when we have questions of clarifications, they should be
directed to the authors of the statement rather than discussed on this
list.

In light of your observation that few ccTLD colleagues are involved in the
transition process, I feel compelled to react and acknowledge the
significant contributions from many more of our ccTLD colleagues,
especially Lise Fuhr from .fr, Martin Boyle from .uk, Staffan Johnson from
.se, Nigel Roberts from .jj & .gg, Giovanni Seppia from .eu (& CENTR
Chair) to name only those who were in Brussels.

I can't speak for Governments but will observe that the submission of a
consensus view from the GAC on our public comment is a significant step
that demonstrates the high level of engagement on their side as well. We
are deeply grateful to the GAC appointed members and participants for
their important work in that regard.

Best regards,
Mathieu

Le 09/10/2015 03:08, Paul Szyndler a écrit :
> Thank you for this Mathieu,
>
> Although this is an appropriately short and high-level document, it
> still conveys a very strong message.
> Not only is the work of the CWG and CCWG supported, but the process
> that was undertaken is justified and endorsed at some length.
>
> It is interesting that this consensus has been reached as, in my
> observation, few ccTLD colleagues (with notable exceptions including
> yourself,  Roelof, Jordan etc) have been very actively involved in the
> ongoing work.
> I can only imagine that the views of many Governments are also only in
> their nascent stage. This is certainly the case with mine.
>
> So it is important that we fully understand the CENTR / HLIG position
> because it will carry considerable weight in the cc and GAC
> communities, where many may not have followed the work closely nor
> taken a definitive position.
> Is this core group of European stakeholders unconditionally endorsing
> the CWG, CCWG and their expected outputs?
> Or rather, is the position an endorsement of what has been done so far
> (and how it has been done), with a more open-ended position on what
> may happen over the coming months?
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Mathieu Weill
> Sent: Friday, 9 October 2015 1:39 AM
> To: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Update from Brussels
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Along with some European members and participants of our group, I am
> attending the CENTR meeting in Brussels. This morning was a joint
> session with the European High Level Internet Governance group (made
> of european GAC representives), and it discussed the IANA Stewardship
transition.
>
> The outcome of this meeting is summarized in the statement that is now
> online :
> https://t.co/EuolALNkgV
>
> You can also find my update regarding our work on our wiki (feel free
> to
> re-use) :
> https://community.icann.org/display/acctcrosscomm/CENTR+Accountability
> +Upd
> ate
>
>
> As part of the discussion, I have noted a suggestion by Roelof that we
> prepare a short, understandable paper to summarize the state of play,
> and what remains to be done.
>
> Best,
>
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