[CCWG-ACCT] Clarifying the Observer Role in the Subgroups

[avri doria]

Hi,

Perhaps there is a level of participation between passive Observation
and commitment to all meetings and hard work.

I think this is achieved by attending calls we are interested in,
marking ourselves as (observer)s and listening. I think the chat allows
a form of comment that does not grab the microphone but which does allow
an occasional comment.  Personally I watch the schedule and figure I can
AC into any meeting that interests me, but not activate my microphone
when calling myslef an Observer. 

I think we might be sending the wrong message if we say there is a
binary choice:  you have to be full-in like the more dedicated
participants, or sit quietly until the work is done. 

However, if the only penalty for weak participation is a bad attendance
report, then please switch me to participant in all groups.

thanks
avri

On 14-Aug-16 10:34, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
> Greg et al.,
>
> Answers inserted in your questions below but it is important to note
> the the role of Observers was meant to be just that:
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Co-Chairs and Staff,
>
>     We need some clarification of the Observer role in the Subgroups. 
>
>     Conceptually, are the Observers essentially "spectators" or do
>     they have the ability to participate in some fashion?
>
>     Specifically:
>
>     1.  Will Observers get call invitations?
>
>
> ​No - in part this is because there is no way to distinguish between
> Observers and Participants​ on teleconferences or in Adobe - as such
> if Observers were to participate in these there would be no point in
> having the differentiation between Observers and Active Participants.
> It is however important to note that there is no restrictions on who
> can be an Active Participant or an Observer and that people can join
> either or switch between them at any time. I will copy below the
> published definitions of these here to remind people of the difference
> between these two:
>
>   * As an active participant who wishes to engage in the day-to-day
>     discussions of the particular topic. Each active participant is
>     expected to spend at least 3-5 hours per week on sub-group work
>     and will have posting rights to the mailing list.
>   * As an observer who wishes to follow the topic discussion but not
>     actively participate at the sub-group level. Observers are not
>     expected to spend time on sub-group work and will not have posting
>     rights to the mailing list.
>
>  
>
>     2.  Can Observers join Adobe Connect and/or phone bridge for the call?
>
>
> ​That is up to the rapporteurs for that group as staff will not police
> this - but again since calls are being recorded, transcribed and notes
> taken it was felt observers would not be deprived of any information.
> ​
>  
>
>     3.  If yes, can Observers speak and/or write in the chat, or are
>     they required to be silent/non-participating?
>
>
> ​As noted above there is no automated way of , and staff will not
> police, enforcing any limitation on Observers in Adobe, as such there
> is nothing which would prevent them from fully participating.
> ​
>  
>
>     4.  Do Observers receive the mailing list posts along with
>     everyone else?
>
>
> ​Yes.
> ​
>  
>
>     5.  Will Observers have posting rights to the email list?
>
>
> ​No.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers
>
> B.​
>  
>
>
>     Clarification of these specific issues as soon as possible will be
>     most helpful to the functioning of the Subgroups.
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Greg
>
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