[CCWG-ACCT] Removal and accountability to community (was Re: CCWG ACCT Proposed Agenda - Call #84 - Tuesday, 16 February @ 06:00 UTC)

Bruce Tonkin Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au
Wed Feb 17 21:04:29 UTC 2016


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> On 18 Feb 2016, at 7:49 AM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 09:29:47PM +0100, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>> of Incorporation isnot violated , the Board is Under the mercy of the SO/AC
>> .
>> That is a very shaky and uncertain situation since just those SO and AC may
>> for any unjustified reasons get together and Spill over the Board
>> That is what the community wants ?
> I keep being surprised by others' surprise about the ability of the
> SOs and ACs to get together and remove the board, given that for some
> time we've been working on a system by which the SOs and ACs can get
> together and spill the board.
> Some earlier proposals appeared (to some) to be too fragile, because
> they made that removal easy.  But now there is the long engagement and
> escalation process that requires a lot of work and, it is to be hoped,
> impresses upon everyone precisely how serious a step they are taking.
> Ultimately, though, accountability to the community means that the
> community can remove you at any time.  It also means that the
> community needs to behave responsibly.  We should have confidence that
> the ICANN community -- of which, after all, we are all a part -- will
> indeed behave that way.
> In case it's useful, by way of comparison: my colleagues on the IAB
> can remove me as chair at any time and for any reason (no explanation,
> fulsome or otherwise, required); and with sufficient nomcom-eligible
> IETF participants I can also be recalled at any time from the IAB.
> The IETF has never exercised this procedure all the way through to the
> end, because by the time things are that serious everyone realises
> that it's time for discussion and compromise.  I think the same thing
> will happen here.
> Best regards,
> A
> -- 
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at anvilwalrusden.com
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