[CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue

Chris Disspain chris at disspain.id.au
Mon Feb 29 01:12:02 UTC 2016


Bruce and Keith + 1.


Cheers,

Chris Disspain | Chief Executive Officer
.au Domain Administration Ltd
T: +61 3 8341 4111 | F: +61 3 8341 4112
E: ceo at auda.org.au <mailto:ceo at auda.org.au> | W: www.auda.org.au <http://www.auda.org.au/> 
auDA – Australia’s Domain Name Administrator

Important Notice - This email may contain information which is confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is intended for the use of the named addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or copy any part of this email. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender and delete this message immediately. Please consider the environment before printing this email.

> On 29 Feb 2016, at 12:02 , Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> I agree fully there needs to be a minimum. Speaking personally, I think 4 SO/ACs should be the minimum level of participation, with 3 of those 4 in support/not objecting required to use the powers. 
> 
> I hope we can all confirm a common understanding so the bylaw drafters will have clear and unambiguous direction.
> 
> Regards,
> Keith
> 
> 
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au <mailto:Bruce.Tonkin at melbourneit.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Keith,
>>  
>> I assume there also needs to be some lower limit of participants that applies to the concept of “preventing the need for unanimous support”.
>>  
>> Taking an extreme case,  what if only one SO or AC “chooses” to be part of the decisional process?   Every decision taken would be unanimous by default.   
>>  
>> How many participants of the 7 SOs and ACs makes a viable Empowered Community?  Should it be 2, 3, or 4.   I hope we get at least 4 out of 7 for it  to genuinely represent a significant portion of the community.
>>  
>> So rather than “If fewer than 5”, it could be “If at least 4”
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Bruce Tonkin
>>  
>>   <>
>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] On Behalf Of Drazek, Keith
>> Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2016 7:04 AM
>> To: accountability-cross-community at icann.org <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] Request for Clarification on Threshold Issue
>>  
>> Hi Thomas, Mathieu and Leon. I’m submitting the following on behalf of the undersigned members/participants from the GNSO:
>>  
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Dear CCWG-Accountability Chairs,
>>  
>> We are very concerned with the response of the Board to the request for clarification regarding the need to adjust the thresholds for the Empowered Community to exercise its powers if the number of decisional participants is less than 5 SOACs. Currently the text in Annex 1 and 2 regarding this possibility is ambiguous:
>>  
>> “The thresholds presented in this document were determined based on this assessment. If fewer than five of ICANN’s SOs and ACs agree to be decisional Participants, these thresholds for consensus support may be adjusted. Thresholds may also have to be adjusted if ICANN changes to have more SOs or ACs.”
>>  
>> In our view, there is no question that the thresholds must be adjusted if there are fewer than five decisional participants. We have acknowledged repeatedly and operated under the assumption that there should not be a requirement of unanimous support for the Empowered Community to exercise its powers. Yet, if there are less than five decisional participants, unless the thresholds are adjusted it would require unanimous support for the Empowered Community to:
>>  
>> ·       Reject a proposed Operating Plan/Strategic Plan/Budget;
>> ·       Recall the entire Board of Directors; and
>> ·       Reject an ICANN Board decision relating to reviews of IANA functions, including the triggering of any PTI separation process.
>>  
>> These powers are central to ensuring that ICANN remains accountable to the Empowered Community. This matter is too critical to the primary purpose of the CCWG-Accountability proposal to remain unclear. As the Board has noted in its own formal comments, “Leaving this issue for future consideration raises the potential for renegotiation of the community thresholds.  This potential for renegotiation adds a level of instability and a lack of predictability.”
>>  
>> Although it has a superficial resemblance to the recent debate over thresholds in the GAC carve-out, we believe it is fundamentally different. There is a great distinction between an SO or AC choosing to not participate, and an SO or AC being blocked from participation in a specific instance, as was the case in the case of the GAC carve-out. We were willing to accept a unanimous threshold for Board recall in the unique circumstances of the GAC carve-out, where the GAC was blocked from participation, but we believe firmly that if any SO or AC elects, whether through a conscious decision or an inability to decide, to not participate, then the non-unanimity principle must be upheld.
>>  
>> However, as we saw with the debate over the thresholds in the GAC carve-out, this could be a contentious issue. It is far better to resolve this matter now (and during the drafting of bylaws), prior to the official transfer of the proposal to NTIA, than to delay it when it could have significant negative ramifications on the transition through a failure to resolve it during the implementation phase.
>>  
>> Therefore, we respectfully request that the current text in Annex 1 and Annex 2 be edited to replace “may” with “shall” and add an additional explanatory clause:
>>  
>> “The thresholds presented in this document were determined based on this assessment. If fewer than five of ICANN’s SOs and ACs agree to be decisional Participants, these thresholds for consensus support shall be adjusted to prevent the need for unanimous support among the decisional Participants to exercise any of the seven Community powers. Thresholds may also have to be adjusted if ICANN changes to have more SOs or ACs.”
>>  
>> Signed,
>>  
>> Phil Corwin
>> Steve DelBianco
>> Keith Drazek
>> James Gannon
>> Robin Gross
>> Ed Morris
>> Brett Schaefer
>> Greg Shatan
>> Matthew Shears
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> _______________________________________________
>> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list
>> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org>
>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community>
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list
> Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org <mailto:Accountability-Cross-Community at icann.org>
> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community <https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/accountability-cross-community>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/accountability-cross-community/attachments/20160229/df51eeb2/attachment-0001.html>


More information about the Accountability-Cross-Community mailing list