[CCWG-ACCT] [icann-board] The CCWG and external self-interest

Marilyn Cade marilynscade at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 7 12:53:13 UTC 2016 

Constituencies have designated representatives, but stakeholders in ICANN
May have personal or individual views 
And hearing those is what we always envisioned as a unique multi stakeholder forum - long before WSIS  codified such. 

What is needed is self identification. Eg. I speak as an individual, an organization w the following 'credential' , or I speak on behalf of an organization, IGO, association like ICC -basis or a company. Members of an association or company sold identify if they are speaking in their personal capacity. But the world is not required to join a constituency at ICANN
In order to have relevance. 

So, one more comment. I am disappointed to see a comment from a board member a bout annoyance
About the community's participants. Whomever we are.,, Probably I misunderstood. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 04:36, Erika Mann <erika at erikamann.com> wrote:
> 
> George - I saw this exchange and I'm not certain why we would object that the Heritage Foundation's position will be noted as part of the record? Brett was always talking on behalf of the HF but the same is true for other members who are talking on behalf of their organisation. Are you saying that each outside-ICANN constituency position must be accepted first by an ICANN community to become registered and noted? 
> 
> Thanks, Erika
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:58 PM, George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Brett Schaefer is one of the least personally annoying people on the CCWG.  However, this message of his displays openly what is happening.
>> 
>> Brett is arguing below that it is the Heritage Foundation's position that must be noted as part of the record.  In other words, Brett openly is a representative of the Heritage Foundation, and NOT the ICANN constituency from where he came.  I don't know which one, but it really doesn't matter.
>> 
>> Many of the CCWG members seem to be representing their personal points of view, or justifying it on the basis of congruence with their own external organization rather than on the basis of positions within their internal ICANN constituency that they represent.
>> 
>> To the extent that this is happening, it's just outrageous There is no other word for it.
>> 
>> George
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: "Schaefer, Brett" <Brett.Schaefer at heritage.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] On behalf of Co-Chairs - Public comment summary/analysis
>>> Date: January 6, 2016 at 11:44:06 AM EST
>>> To: Alice Jansen <alice.jansen at icann.org>, "accountability-cross-community at icann.org" <accountability-cross-community at icann.org>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alice,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this. The Heritage Foundation’s opposition to full GAC participation in the empowered community was not noted in the Rec 1 analysis. As stated in our comment, we think that GAC should be strictly advisory.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Rec 7 analysis, I’m concerned that our position may be misunderstood. We support including DIDP in an appeals process, but we are very much against restricting it to the engagement, escalation, and enforcement staircase because that process is dependent on the Empowered Community. DIDP appeals need to be accessible to everyone, not just the SOACs, and appeals should not require SOAC approval at any threshold. This may require moving DIDP appeals to the request for reconsideration process.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Rec 11, the one sentence summary gives the impression that we support Rec 11. We do not and offered specific proposals on how to change the text to address our concerns, which were not included in the Rec 11 analysis.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Brett
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Brett Schaefer
>>> Jay Kingham Senior Research Fellow in International Regulatory Affairs
>>> Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Davis Institute for National Security and Foreign Policy
>>> The Heritage Foundation
>>> 214 Massachusetts Avenue, NE
>>> Washington, DC 20002
>>> 202-608-6097
>>> heritage.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:04 AM
>>> To: accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>> Subject: [CCWG-ACCT] On behalf of Co-Chairs - Public comment summary/analysis
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On behalf of CCWG-ACCT Co-Chairs
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Attached to this email you will find a staff produced summary and analysis of the public comments received on our Draft Proposal.
>>> 
>>> In preparation for our January discussions, we encourage you to read the document as well as comments available for full reference at: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-30nov15/. Note: a download all page is available at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613 
>>> 
>>> Please note that we cannot convert the spreadsheet into a PDF, the tabs and spreadsheet being too large. Thank you for your understanding. 
>>> 
>>> Staff will post the summary on the public forum box on Friday, 8 January - https://www.icann.org/public-comments/draft-ccwg-accountability-proposal-2015-11-30-en. In the meantime, it is located on your wiki at https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=56984613
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank you 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Mathieu, Thomas, León
>>> 
>>> 
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