[CCWG-ACCT] Recommendation 4 - power to remove Individual Board director - 1st reading conclusions

[Greg Shatan]

Speaking of pedants, the late, great William Safire wrote about this
(albeit not fulsomely) a few years ago:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/magazine/22wwln-safire-t.html?_r=0

The "Grammarphobia Blog" has also weighed in:
http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2014/11/fulsome.html

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:

> I'm merely a pedant-in-passing, so I'll offer this response but not engage
> further.
>
> I suspect you were taught as I was that "fulsome" was a strongly negative
> term despite its seemingly positive composition.  Over the last few
> decades, its usage has shifted, and I now see it used in a positive sense.
> I think it's become genuinely ambiguous, like "biannual," and I avoid using
> it myself.  But it's not a big deal because the intended meaning is usually
> clear from the context.  For reference see
> http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/fulsome
>
> Steve
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 7, 2016, at 4:08 AM, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
>
> As pedant-in-residence, I object to the word 'fulsome' in any event.
>
> "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it
> means".
>
>
>
>
> complimentary or flattering to an excessive degree.
>
> "they are almost embarrassingly fulsome in their appreciation"
>
> synonyms:    excessive, extravagant, overdone, immoderate, inordinate,
> over-appreciative, flattering, adulatory, fawning, unctuous, ingratiating,
> cloying, saccharine; enthusiastic, effusive, rapturous, glowing, gushing,
> profuse, generous, lavish;
>
> informalover the top, smarmy
>
>
> adj.
>
> 1. Excessively flattering or insincerely earnest. See Synonyms at unctuous.
>
> 2. Disgusting or offensive: "With the stink of decaying corpses so near
> her cave ... suddenly she felt overpowered by the fulsome reek" (Jean Auel).
>
> 3. Usage Problem Copious or abundant.
>
> [Middle English fulsom, abundant, well-fed, arousing disgust : ful, full;
> see FULL1 + -som, adj. suff.; see -SOME1.]
>
> fulsome·ly adv.
>
> fulsome·ness n.
>
> Usage Note: The original meaning of fulsome was "copious, abundant." But
> fulsome is now most often used of remarks that involve excessive praise or
> ingratiating flattery, as in Their fulsome compliments were viewed as an
> awkward attempt at winning approval. This narrower application of the word
> has become its sole meaning for many educated speakers, to the point where
> a large majority of the Usage Panel disapproves of the use of fulsome to
> mean simply "full" or "copious." In our 2012 survey, only 19 percent
> accepted the use of fulsome as a synonym of full in the sentence You can
> adjust the TV's audio settings for a more fulsome bass in movie
> soundtracks. Use of the word as a synonym of copious or expansive found
> only slightly more takers—21 percent accepted The final report will furnish
> a more detailed and fulsome discussion of the issues involved. The use of
> fulsome as a simple synonym of praising without a clear indication of
> inordinacy or insincerity split the Panel n!
>
> early dow
> n
> the middle, with 55 percent accepting the example The research director
> claimed that the product was a major advance that would improve Web access
> for everyone, and the marketing VP was equally fulsome in her remarks. Thus
> it may be best to avoid fulsome except where the context unambiguously
> conveys the idea that the praise in question is excessive or fawning.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 01/06/2016 10:51 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>
> I have a concern and resultant question (directed at any Directors who
>
> choose to reply) regarding the phrase "A petition must be supported by a
>
> fulsome and written rationale stating the reasons why removal is sought."
>
>
> Let me create a scenario. Directors are chosen by an SO or At-Large not
>
> because they will "represent" the appointing body, but (among other
>
> reasons) because there is a general belief that the candidate espouses
>
> beliefs and standards similar to those held by those who are selecting
>
> the Board member. This is a VERY subjective decision, and not one that
>
> is particularly provable.
>
>
> If, as time unfolds, those involved with the appointing body
>
> overwhelmingly come to feel that the judgement was either incorrect, or
>
> more pointedly, if it were to be made again, the candidate would NOT be
>
> selected, would expressing this satisfy the "fulsome rationale"?
>
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 06/01/2016 09:02 AM, Mathieu Weill wrote:
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
>
> Please find below the main conclusions of our deliberations during
>
> call #74. The updated document is attached.
>
>
> a.            to mitigate risk of litigation in case of Board removal,
>
> pre-service letters for Board members could be required (see paragraph
>
> 39 page 9)
>
> b.            a written rationale will be offered very early in the
>
> process
>
> c. Lawyers are tasked to provide adequate language to provide adequate
>
> direction for implementation.
>
>
> POST MEETING NOTE :
>
> This version includes edits to incorporate comments from the Icann
>
> Board (section 3c – page 12 of the Icann Board comment) that were not
>
> included in the previous version (thanks to Kavouss for drawing our
>
> attention to this). Each of these comments were considered as useful
>
> directions for implementation. (see paragraphs 41 and 48)
>
>
> 2^nd reading is planned during next Tuesday’s call.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
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>
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