[CCWG-ACCT] "Christmas trees" and "Consumer Trust" in Article 1 of the Bylaws

Avri Doria avri at acm.org
Wed Jan 13 22:50:00 UTC 2016

Are incumbent gTLDs included within the "certain parts of the DNS" that
ICANN should manage?


On 13-Jan-16 17:19, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 05:01:23PM -0500, Greg Shatan wrote:
>> If it was any application beyond the new TLDs then maybe your
>> concern is realized.
> Yes, that's exactly what the concern is, as several of us have tried
> to say in different ways.
> ICANN is supposed to manage certain parts of the DNS, not "the DNS".
> The DNS is designed _precisely_ to foil this kind of centralised
> responsibility.  It's the only thing that has kept it around so long,
> given all its faults.  Attempting to make ICANN responsible for
> consumer trust in the DNS in general[1] is just another way of trying
> to make ICANN into Lords of the Internet instead of insisting that
> they be responsible, competent administrators of their narrow
> technical function.  
> If what you're arguing is that ICANN's previous AoC included as a
> matter of words but not intent resposibility for stuff outside ICANN's
> remit, I'm prepared to admit that.  But as a practical matter, in that
> case, I think we still need to kick sorting that out to WS 2 and put
> in this WS only the bit we all definitely agree was in scope: the new
> TLD program.  Otherwise, we'll never ship the minimal stuff necessary
> for the transition.  With the new community powers, the community will
> be able to take the time to get any further analysis right and craft
> text that is actually appropriate to ICANN's job.
> A
> [1] whatever that means, anyway.  It's to me like saying "consumer
> trust in fuel ignition systems".  Do drivers even know whether their
> cars have a fuel ignition system?  If your car breaks down, do you get
> angry at Bosch or NGK or Denso, or do get angry at whoever made your
> car?  I actually know who made my "ignition system" (and the cheating,
> lying software inside it -- mine isn't a separate part of the engine),
> but I'm still mad at VW.

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