[CCWG-ACCT] "Christmas trees" and "Consumer Trust" in Article 1 of the Bylaws

David Post david.g.post at gmail.com
Thu Jan 14 15:47:26 UTC 2016


At 05:19 PM 1/13/2016, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 05:01:23PM -0500, Greg Shatan wrote:
> > If it was any application beyond the new TLDs then maybe your
> > concern is realized.
>Yes, that's exactly what the concern is, as several of us have tried
>to say in different ways.
>ICANN is supposed to manage certain parts of the DNS, not "the DNS".
>The DNS is designed _precisely_ to foil this kind of centralised
>responsibility.  It's the only thing that has kept it around so long,
>given all its faults.  Attempting to make ICANN responsible for
>consumer trust in the DNS in general[1] is just another way of trying
>to make ICANN into Lords of the Internet instead of insisting that
>they be responsible, competent administrators of their narrow
>technical function.
>If what you're arguing is that ICANN's previous AoC included as a
>matter of words but not intent resposibility for stuff outside ICANN's
>remit, I'm prepared to admit that.  But as a practical matter, in that
>case, I think we still need to kick sorting that out to WS 2 and put
>in this WS only the bit we all definitely agree was in scope: the new
>TLD program.  Otherwise, we'll never ship the minimal stuff necessary
>for the transition.  With the new community powers, the community will
>be able to take the time to get any further analysis right and craft
>text that is actually appropriate to ICANN's job.
>[1] whatever that means, anyway.  It's to me like saying "consumer
>trust in fuel ignition systems".  Do drivers even know whether their
>cars have a fuel ignition system?  If your car breaks down, do you get
>angry at Bosch or NGK or Denso, or do get angry at whoever made your
>car?  I actually know who made my "ignition system" (and the cheating,
>lying software inside it -- mine isn't a separate part of the engine),
>but I'm still mad at VW.
>Andrew Sullivan
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