[CCWG-ACCT] [ccTLDcommunity] [ccnso-members] Board comments on CCWG Proposal

Thu Mar 17 14:33:15 UTC 2016

Good to know that there is institutional memory...

el
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> On 17 Mar 2016, at 13:28, avri doria <avri at apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, the way late email is coming through has been startling several times.
> Most of it seems to be email we have seen before.
> 
> avri
> 
>> On 17-Mar-16 04:31, Chris Disspain wrote:
>> All,
>> 
>> There is obviously some issue going on with mail servers somewhere as
>> the below emails have just arrived from many months ago. I have no
>> idea what is causing the problem but my technical folks are checking
>> at our end. Apologies for the inconvenience. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Chris Disspain | Chief Executive Officer
>> .au Domain Administration Ltd
>> T: +61 3 8341 4111 | F: +61 3 8341 4112
>> E: ceo at auda.org.au <mailto:ceo at auda.org.au> | W: www.auda.org.au
>> <http://www.auda.org.au>
>> 
>> auDA - Australia's Domain Name Administrator
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> *From:* Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na <mailto:el at lisse.na>>
>>>> *Date:* March 17, 2016 at 06:53:48 GMT
>>>> *To:* CCWG Accountability <accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:accountability-cross-community at icann.org>>
>>>> *Cc:* ccTLD Community List <cctldcommunity at cctld-managers.org
>>>> <mailto:cctldcommunity at cctld-managers.org>>, ccNSO Members
>>>> <ccnso-members at icann.org <mailto:ccnso-members at icann.org>>,
>>>> <cctldworld at icann.org <mailto:cctldworld at icann.org>>
>>>> *Subject:* *Re: [ccTLDcommunity] [ccnso-members] Board comments on
>>>> CCWG Proposal*
>>>> 
>>>> Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you, I shall read after transit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> But, why am I not surprised?
>>>> 
>>>> el
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>>>> On 14 Dec 2015, at 11:57, Chris Disspain <ceo at auda.org.au
>>>> <mailto:ceo at auda.org.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You will probably by now have seen that the Board has submitted
>>>>> some comments in respect to the Third CCWG-Accountability Draft
>>>>> Proposal and an accompanying letter from Steve Crocker. In case you
>>>>> haven’t seen these yet, they are attached.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought it was important, as a ccNSO elected member of the Board,
>>>>> to write to you to explain the background to these comments and
>>>>> offer to discuss them with you at your convenience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am writing personally and not at the behest of the Board nor to
>>>>> provide you with input/comment from the Board. These are my
>>>>> personal opinions about where I think the Board is at, their
>>>>> motivation (and mine) for making the comments and what some of the
>>>>> comments might mean.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my opinion, the Board is 100% supportive of the transition and
>>>>> filled with admiration for the work and effort of those involved in
>>>>> the CCWG. The Board believes that there are a number of areas of
>>>>> concern in the report that need to be dealt with. I stress that
>>>>> these are concerns of the Board as a whole. They are not concerns
>>>>> of staff that have simply been agreed to by the Board but rather
>>>>> concerns that the Board has expressed. Whilst the comment document
>>>>> has been drafted by staff (as has the draft proposal from the CCWG)
>>>>> this has been done at the direction of the Board and the full Board
>>>>> has unanimously endorsed the comments. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of these areas of concern can be characterised as ‘might it be
>>>>> better if’ areas but a small number are of higher concern.
>>>>> The Board has carefully considered these and provided detailed
>>>>> comment together with suggestions for dealing with the problem(s)
>>>>> that the Board perceives. There may be other solutions to the
>>>>> problems and the Board is not tied to its suggested solution. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my opinion, the Board believes that if these higher concern
>>>>> recommendations (or parts thereof) are not dealt with then when the
>>>>> Board applies the global public interest test, in accordance with
>>>>> its resolution of 16 October 2014
>>>>> (https://www.icann.org/resources/board-material/resolutions-2014-10-16-en#2.d
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_board-2Dmaterial_resolutions-2D2014-2D10-2D16-2Den-232.d&d=CwMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=1DbTjhQ5VT9lEKWxmFKcm_UTFEIWIVLLzFbyinM3hVI&s=jnpdB-fmVCALZJYa_l-th-G7G2DYQC-8WKAX3R_WBdI&e=>),
>>>>> there is a significant chance that the Board will find that some of
>>>>> those recommendations do not meet that test.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I fully endorse the Board comments and I believe that it is in all
>>>>> of our best interests as ccTLD managers to take them into
>>>>> account. I encourage you to carefully consider the CCWG
>>>>> recommendations and the comments of the Board and to provide your
>>>>> input to the ccNSO Council. I fully respect that some of you will
>>>>> not agree with all (or any!) of the comments of the Board but hope
>>>>> that, given my role and my commitment to the ccNSO and ccTLDs
>>>>> generally, you will understand that these comments are well
>>>>> intentioned and made in an effort to solve real issues with the
>>>>> current CCWG draft. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I stress again that the Board is, in my opinion, 100% behind the
>>>>> transition. However, the transition has to be 'done right' and
>>>>> ‘transition at all costs’ is not an acceptable stance, in my
>>>>> view. I know the time line is important but I would rather miss a
>>>>> deadline than not deal with the very real concerns of a group of 19
>>>>> experienced individuals who have been nominated or elected to
>>>>> the Board to serve the ICANN community and to act in their best
>>>>> interests.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will be delighted to answer any questions (on or off list) and to
>>>>> talk to you one-on-one or as a group. I stand ready to do whatever
>>>>> it takes to get a CCWG Final Report out to NTIA as soon as possible.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Disspain| Chief Executive Officer
>>>>> 
>>>>> .au Domain Administration Ltd
>>>>> 
>>>>> T: +61 3 8341 4111 | F: +61 3 8341 4112
>>>>> 
>>>>> E: ceo at auda.org.au <mailto:ceo at auda.org.au> | W:www.auda.org.au
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.auda.org.au_&d=CwMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=62cJFOifzm6X_GRlaq8Mo8TjDmrxdYahOP8WDDkMr4k&m=1DbTjhQ5VT9lEKWxmFKcm_UTFEIWIVLLzFbyinM3hVI&s=iQ2WVwrEHd9FtBkImjxH2BHkXCqaaaawln6qj6i8u1Y&e=> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> auDA – Australia’s Domain Name Administrator
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <14-DEC-15-Board Comments to CCWG[1][3].pdf>
>>>>> <20151214 Comments on CCWG Report_SCrocker[7].pdf>
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