[CCWG-ACCT] Human Rights Transition Provision: Bylaws Section 27.3(a)

Tijani BEN JEMAA tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
Mon May 2 12:34:02 UTC 2016


Niels and Tatiana,

I agreed with your complaint against the bylaws text proposed the first time because it didn’t reflect exactly the spirit of the CCWG final proposal ratified by the Chartering organizations. The correction made does not reflect the CCWG final proposal either. You said it is implicit; why we do not explicit it for clarity? Also this proposed bylaws text says " ...in each case, using the same process and criteria as for Work Stream 1 Recommendations ». Those cases are:
approved for submission to the Board by the CCWG-Accountability as a consensus recommendation in Work Stream 2
approved by the Board

So for the approval by the CCWG and the approval by the board, the same process and criteria as for WS 1 recommendations will be used. 

You see that this process and those criteria will be used for the approval of CCWG and the Board. How this would imply the ratification of the Chartering organization?

I understand that the first proposal made the approval of all the chartering organizations necessary, The modification should keep the reference to the ratification of the chartering organizations and add "as defined in the CCWG charter".

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> Le 2 mai 2016 à 09:49, Dr. Tatiana Tropina <t.tropina at mpicc.de> a écrit :
> 
> This is fine and a good argument, but I guess the problem is that the draft bylaw on human rights was not word by word with the text of the bylaw introduced in the proposal on the first place. This is why we asked for a clarification.
> Best regards
> Tanya 
> 
> On 02/05/16 10:46, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> The drafted bylaws MUST be consistent word by word to the text of the Supplemental CCWG Proposal .Example text on Human Rights
>> Regards
>> Kavouss
>> 
>> 2016-05-02 10:11 GMT+02:00 Niels ten Oever <lists at nielstenoever.net <mailto:lists at nielstenoever.net>>:
>> Dear Tijani and Kavouss,
>> 
>> Could you please indicate where the proposed text is not consistent with
>> the report? Concrete references would be helpful for me to better
>> understand your point.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Niels
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 05/02/2016 09:38 AM, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:
>> > Tijani +1
>> > I fully agree with Tijani
>> > People misuse the opportunity to make modifications that were not agreed
>> > during the lkast 16 months
>> > NO CHANGE NO MODIFICATIONS.
>> > During the WSIS I WILL tell everybody that there is no supervision nor
>> > control on what we have agreed and the people will make whatever change
>> > they wish without the agreements of the others
>> >
>> > KAVOUSS
>> >
>> > 2016-05-02 8:14 GMT+02:00 Tijani BEN JEMAA < <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
>> > <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>>>:
>> >
>> >     Mathieu and all,
>> >
>> >     The modification proposed doesn’t reflect the CCWG last proposal
>> >     approved by the chartering organization. I don’t think we are
>> >     allowed to write bylaws that are not the exact interpretation of the
>> >     approved document that had the CCWG consensus and the charting
>> >     organizations ratification.
>> >
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>> >     *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>> >     Executive Director
>> >     Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>> >     Phone: +216 98 330 114
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>> >>     Le 2 mai 2016 à 04:23, Kavouss Arasteh < <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>
>> >>     <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>>> a écrit :
>> >>
>> >>     Mathieu,
>> >>     Tks
>> >>     Pls NOTE MY SERIOUS OBJECTIONS to:
>> >>     1.NOT MENTIONING REFERNCE TO THE APPROVAL OF CHARTERING
>> >>     ORGANIZATIONBS in HR
>> >>     2. GIVE GIVE A BLANKET AGREEMENT TO THE DOCUMENTS WHICH YET TO BE
>> >>     DRAFTED.
>> >>     3. Making so many changes to the Third proposals . We must avoid
>> >>     having a new proposal
>> >>     Kavouss
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     2016-05-01 22:42 GMT+02:00 Mathieu Weill < <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
>> >>     <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>>:
>> >>
>> >>         Dear colleagues,
>> >>
>> >>         Please find below for your consideration some suggestions from
>> >>         our lawyers for clarification of the bylaw language regarding
>> >>         the Human rights FoI. This follows our request during the
>> >>         previous call.
>> >>
>> >>         Best,
>> >>
>> >>         Mathieu Weill
>> >>         ---------------
>> >>         Depuis mon mobile, désolé pour le style
>> >>
>> >>         Début du message transféré :
>> >>
>> >>>         *Expéditeur:* "Gregory, Holly" <holly.gregory at sidley.com <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>
>> >>>         <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com <mailto:holly.gregory at sidley.com>>>
>> >>>         *Date:* 1 mai 2016 19:10:53 UTC+2
>> >>>         *Destinataire:* "'Mathieu Weill'" < <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>
>> >>>         <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr <mailto:mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>>>, "'Thomas Rickert'"
>> >>>         <thomas at rickert.net <mailto:thomas at rickert.net> <mailto:thomas at rickert.net <mailto:thomas at rickert.net>>>, León Felipe
>> >>>         Sánchez Ambía < <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>leonfelipe at sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
>> >>>         <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx <mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>>>, "bylaws-coord at icann.org <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>
>> >>>         <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>>" <bylaws-coord at icann.org <mailto:bylaws-coord at icann.org>
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>> >>>         *Cc:* ACCT-Staff < <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>acct-staff at icann.org <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>
>> >>>         <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org <mailto:acct-staff at icann.org>>>, "Rosemary E. Fei"
>> >>>         <rfei at adlercolvin.com <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com> <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com <mailto:rfei at adlercolvin.com>>>,
>> >>>         "ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com> <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>>"
>> >>>         <ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com> <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com <mailto:ICANN at adlercolvin.com>>>,
>> >>>         Sidley ICANN CCWG < <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>
>> >>>         <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com <mailto:sidleyicannccwg at sidley.com>>>,
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>> >>>         *Objet:* *Human Rights Transition Provision:  Bylaws Section
>> >>>         27.3(a)*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>         Dear Co-Chairs and Bylaws Coordinating Group:
>> >>>
>> >>>         On the CCWG call last week, there was a discussion of the
>> >>>         Bylaws language regarding the transition provision on Human
>> >>>         Rights*//*[27.3(a)] and it was suggested that the language be
>> >>>         clarified to ensure that the same approval process used for
>> >>>         Work Stream 1 would apply.  We propose the following
>> >>>         clarifying edits.  We suggest that you share this with the
>> >>>         CCWG and if there is agreement, the following proposed edit
>> >>>         should be included in the CCWG’s public comment:____
>> >>>
>> >>>         Redline:____
>> >>>
>> >>>         *Section 27.3. HUMAN RIGHTS____*
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         (a) The Core Value set forth in Section 1.2(b)(viii) shall
>> >>>         have no force or effect unless and until a framework of
>> >>>         interpretation for human rights (“*FOI-HR*”) is approved by
>> >>>         (i) approved for submission to the Board by the
>> >>>         CCWG-Accountability as a consensus recommendation in Work
>> >>>         Stream 2, and (ii) approved by each of the
>> >>>         CCWG-Accountability’s chartering organizations and (iii) the
>> >>>         Board, (in each thecase of the Board, using the same process
>> >>>         and criteria used by the Boardto consider the as for Work
>> >>>         Stream 1 Recommendations).____
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         (b) No person or entity shall be entitled to invoke the
>> >>>         reconsideration process provided in Section 4.2, or the
>> >>>         independent review process provided in Section 4.3, based
>> >>>         solely on the inclusion of the Core Value set forth in
>> >>>         Section 1.2(b)(viii) (i) until after the FOI-HR contemplated
>> >>>         by Section 27.3(a) is in place or (ii) for actions of ICANN
>> >>>         or the Board that occurred prior to the____
>> >>>
>> >>>         effectiveness of the FOI-HR.____
>> >>>
>> >>>         Clean:____
>> >>>
>> >>>         *Section 27.3. HUMAN RIGHTS____*
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         (a) The Core Value set forth in Section 1.2(b)(viii) shall
>> >>>         have no force or effect unless and until a framework of
>> >>>         interpretation for human rights (“*FOI-HR*”) is (i) approved
>> >>>         for submission to the Board by the CCWG-Accountability as a
>> >>>         consensus recommendation in Work Stream 2 and (ii) approved
>> >>>         by the Board, in each case, using the same process and
>> >>>         criteria as for Work Stream 1 Recommendations.____
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         (b) No person or entity shall be entitled to invoke the
>> >>>         reconsideration process provided in Section 4.2, or the
>> >>>         independent review process provided in Section 4.3, based
>> >>>         solely on the inclusion of the Core Value set forth in
>> >>>         Section 1.2(b)(viii) (i) until after the FOI-HR contemplated
>> >>>         by Section 27.3(a) is in place or (ii) for actions of ICANN
>> >>>         or the Board that occurred prior to the____
>> >>>
>> >>>         effectiveness of the FOI-HR.____
>> >>>
>> >>>         Kind regards, ____
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         Holly and Rosemary____
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
>> >>>         __ __
>> >>>
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