[CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting tomorrow - Minor corrections

[Paul Rosenzweig]

Why is anyone surprised that those holding the resources are going to
constrain you?  It is in ICANN's corporate interest to limit outside review.

If we were serious about the process we would ask ICANN for a top line # for
how much it is willing to spend on the WS2 process and then WE would decide
how to allocate it:  transcription; travel support; legal support; whatever.
I have no real problem with ICANN setting an overall budget (subject, of
course, to the new EC budget review powers).  But allocation and priority
setting should be by the CCWG.

Paul

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[mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan
Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:11 AM
To: Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net>;
accountability-cross-community at icann.org
Subject: Re: [CCWG-ACCT] CCWG-Accountability - WS2 Presentation for meeting
tomorrow - Minor corrections

Without commenting on the specifics of the issues (whether staff note taking
or transcriptions or whatever), the entire discussion on costs started with
us being told that we had exceeded our budget, a budget we were not aware
of, did not know what it covered, and had absolutely no handle on what the
costs were that were associated with it.

I would have hoped that this time around, if we were making cost vs benefit
decisions, we would not only be told the "decision", but also made aware of
the specific costs that were being deemed to be too high and thus
eliminated.

VERY tiresome.

Alan

At 31/05/2016 04:02 AM, Nigel Roberts wrote:
>I support Avri, Marilyn et al on transcription.
>
>The lack of transcription is a direct attack on the ability of 
>non-native speakers to participate, whether unintentional or intentional.
>
>But I'll really not surprised.
>
>
>
>On 31/05/16 05:27, Harold Arcos wrote:
>>Hello Avri, everyone
>>
>>I join in the thanks of Carlos towards Avri regarding noted lack of 
>>the transcription.
>>Her POV is more than right because the reading allow follow much 
>>better the argumentative process.
>>
>>I agree with your question and I joinv
>>
>>Kind regards
>>
>>Harold Arcos
>>+58 4129982820
>>skp: harcos0912
>>
>>
>>On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM, avri doria <avri at apc.org 
>><mailto:avri at apc.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I would like to question the non transcription decision.
>>
>>     Especially in the case where the participants are responsible for
both
>>     participating and making sure all discussed issues are included, the
>>     transcription is important.  It also helps those for whom English is
not
>>     a first language, who read better than they parse peoples varying
>>     accents and pronunciations.
>>
>>     avri
>>
>>
>>     On 30-May-16 11:46, Bernard Turcotte wrote:
>>      > All,
>>      >
>>      > Minor corrections to the slides on WS2 attached.
>>      >
>>      > B.
>>      >
>>      >
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