[CCWG-ACCT] [Ws2-hr] HR subgroup question to CCWG plenary

[Seun Ojedeji]

Hi Greg,

>From the section of Annex 6, only one item states a need to develop a
document (which is the FoI), others started with the word "consider" which
simply means that it's expected to carried out in respect to another action
which is the development of the FoI.

Whether we treat it individually or collectively isn't important, what seem
to be most important is that the items are considered in development of the
FoI. - As I understand it, no other implementation document is expected to
be produced under Human rights except the FoI.

Regards

Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On 9 Jan 2017 04:26, "Greg Shatan" <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:

> The issue paper is not the mandate.  That is merely a staff-prepared
> document intended to assist the subgroup in starting its work.
>
> The mandate is in the Workstream 1 final report.  The issue is that Annex
> 6 (on Human Rights) and Annex 12 (on WS2) each lay out the mandate for the
> subgroup, but they are not the same and appear to conflict with each
> other.  This is expressed in more detail in Niels's email.
>
> If we follow Annex 6, then each of the bullet point items needs to be
> dealt with by the subgroup separately from the FoI.  If we follow Annex 12,
> then we do not deal with them separately, but we do need to consider (or
> need to have considered) the bullet point items in preparing the FoI.
>
> Greg
>
> Greg
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> Looking at the attached document (which I expect is the mandate referred
>> to by Niel), it seem to me that Annex 12 clearly enumerate that those
>> listed bullet points needs to be considered as the FoI is being developed.
>>
>> I did not follow the work of the HR holistically but if we say we now
>> have an FoI, it is assumed that the group considered and fulfilled the
>> bullet point items, otherwise there isn't an FoI yet as it is expected that
>> those considerations would inform the FoI drafting.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Sent from my LG G4
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>
>> On 8 Jan 2017 17:57, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Niel,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your mail, just a question inline on one of your point.
>>>
>>> Sent from my LG G4
>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>>
>>> On 7 Jan 2017 18:31, "Niels ten Oever" <lists at nielstenoever.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Please refer to this version of the email instead.  The prior version
>>> inadvertently quoted from a draft version of the WS1 report.
>>>
>>> .......
>>>
>>>  In these discussions,  it felt as though  we were going into too much
>>> detail, and stepping outside of the mandate of our Subgroup.
>>>
>>>
>>> SO: Could you share reference to the mandate of the subgroup?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. A fifth  option could be (and this might be a mix between option 1
>>> and 3) to issue high-level recommendations on how ICANN and the SO’s and
>>> AC’s could best operationalize the core value contained in  the Human
>>> Rights Bylaw.  These recommendations could include (a) chartering a GNSO
>>> Working Group on Human Rights to consider and recommend how the Bylaw
>>> should be taken into account in gTLD policy development and
>>> implementation, and/or (b) chartering Working Groups in each of the
>>> other SO’s and AC’s for purposes relevant to their remit, and/or (c)
>>> chartering a new CCWG on Human Rights to specifically consider the steps
>>> needed to make the Bylaw operational, and provide guidance to each of
>>> the SO's and AC's on how they could incorporate  the CCWG’s output in
>>> their processes, as well as discussing measures that could be adopted by
>>> ICANN, the corporation, with respect to its own internal human
>>> resources, employment, and contracting practices  based on the Bylaw.
>>>
>>> We would like to bring these five options in front of the plenary, and
>>> we would greatly appreciate your thoughts on these and potentially other
>>> options.
>>>
>>> The Human Rights Subgroup wishes you a revitalizing festive season and
>>> we're greatly looking forward to completing our work in Workstream 2
>>> with you all in 2017.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> The CCWG Accountability Human Rights Subgroup
>>>
>>> PS Thanks Greg and Brett for finding this error and for helping to
>>> correct it.
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