[Alac-sc-outreach] Urgent questions about CROP guidelines for FY19

Mon Jul 23 09:56:37 UTC 2018

Yes, I agree.

I am writing an email and we shall be creating the question.
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 12:54, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Daniel
>
> I agree with the others, just get Benedetta in to our next meeting, and
> get her to clarify the queries.  Because the guidelines are conflicting and
> confusing.
>
> Prepare the questions for her so that she can specifically address what is
> important to us all and so that we are not asking the same thing!
>
> M
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:39 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much for the thread.
>>
>> Appologies I have been on the move but I find that is a matter of urgency
>> that needs to be addressed ASAP especially regarding the Terms and
>> Conditions of CROP. I think the best thing is to have a special call with
>> GSE, Staff and CROP Staff to discuss and review the Criteria.
>>
>>
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 at 01:14, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HI Dev,
>>>
>>> Yes I guess you are right, I am focused on NARALO who has no ICANN
>>> meeting or
>>> official meeting organized by ICANN so we are using all three of our
>>> trips for
>>> option c. 2 arin meetings and one other trip.
>>>
>>> Judith
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>>> On 7/20/2018 5:55 PM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
>>> > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:37 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>> > <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>> >> I understand this a bit differently based on the discussions that we
>>> had with Benedetta and Mary at ICANN Panama. Benedetta was clear that if
>>> there is no ICANN meeting or an ICANN sponsored meeting we can choose #C
>>> and use the trips or anything > that is in our outreach plan and also in
>>> the GSE plan for our region or that is signed of from the GSE. If you see
>>> on the guidelines it is an "OR" not an "and"
>>> >>
>>> >> Each RALO is allocated up to three (3) individual regional trips, to
>>> be utilized for the following events occurring in that respective RALO’s
>>> region in a financial year (FY), and in accordance with the goals,
>>> strategies, and expected activities and outcomes detailed in each RALO’s
>>> Outreach Strategic Plan:
>>> >> (a) an ICANN Public Meeting; or
>>> >> (b) an official meeting organized by the ICANN Organization (e.g. the
>>> GDD Summit); or
>>> >> (c) if there is no Public Meeting or official ICANN meeting occurring
>>> in that RALO’s region in that FY, a meeting in that region that is assessed
>>> by the relevant regional Global Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) regional
>>> vice-president as being: (i) directly and demonstrably related to ongoing
>>> ICANN policy, advisory or technical activities (e.g. a Regional Internet
>>> Registry meeting), and (ii) consistent with the ICANN Organization’s
>>> outreach plan for that region.
>>> >> It is clear that we do not have to use a trip for A or B as there is
>>> C. Benedetta said they put in C because of our questions.  I think that
>>> Benedetta did not clear up the item in the wiki since item C Is what she
>>> was telling us at the meeting and is what is listed on the chart.
>>> >>
>>> >> Judith
>>> > Sorry Judith, but I don't think that is correct. If you read further,
>>> > there is a paragraph that reads "Where a RALO has used at least one
>>> > (1) trip to an ICANN Public Meeting or official ICANN-organized
>>> > meeting occurring in its region, it may use its remaining
>>> > allocation(s) for a meeting occurring in its region that is assessed
>>> > by the relevant regional Global Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) regional
>>> > vice-president as being directly and demonstrably related to ongoing
>>> > ICANN policy, advisory or technical activities (e.g. a Regional
>>> > Internet Registry meeting)."
>>> >
>>> > So all RALOs must use at least one regional trip to either an ICANN
>>> > F2F ICANN meeting OR a ICANN organised meeting. EURALO, APRALO and
>>> > AFRALO have the benefit of having ICANN F2F meetings in FY19 to choose
>>> > for that trip, but all RALOs have to pick at least one ICANN organised
>>> > meeting in the region and then be able to pick a "meeting occurring in
>>> > its region that is assessed by the relevant regional Global
>>> > Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) regional vice-president as being directly
>>> > and demonstrably related to ongoing ICANN policy, advisory or
>>> > technical activities (e.g. a Regional Internet Registry meeting)".
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Only if there are no ICANN organised events or public meetings in the
>>> > region, is (c) applied which essentially says.a RALO can use its 3
>>> > proposals for meetings "occurring in its region that is assessed by
>>> > the relevant regional Global Stakeholder Engagement (GSE) regional
>>> > vice-president as being directly and demonstrably related to ongoing
>>> > ICANN policy, advisory or technical activities (e.g. a Regional
>>> > Internet Registry meeting) ".
>>> >
>>> > Dev Anand
>>> >
>>>
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Regards
Nanghaka Daniel K.
Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead - ISOC
Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018
Mobile +256 772 898298 (Uganda)
Skype: daniel.nanghaka

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