[arabic-vip] رد: FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant IssuesReport

[Baher Esmat]

I think the question right now is shall we post the translation in its current form or not?

Regards,
Baher
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From: Manal Ismail [mailto:manal at tra.gov.eg]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 07:28 AM
To: Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk>; arabic-vip at icann.org <arabic-vip at icann.org>
Subject: [arabic-vip] رد:  FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant IssuesReport

Dear Sarmad ..
 
Apologies for the delayed reply ..
Frankly, I'm extremely busy with so many work to done even during the Eid vacation week ..
I can check at the office if we have someone to go through the translation but unfortunately this won't be before Sun 13th after the vacation and would be only from a pure linguistic point of view (meaning that this person will not be familiar with the technical temrs)  .. 
So unless we have other volunteers I don't think we can meet the deadline of public comments ..
Very sorry for not being able to help in such an important task ..
 
Kind Regards
--Manal 

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من: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org بالنيابة عن Sarmad Hussain
تاريخ الإرسال: الاربعاء 02/11/2011 12:42 م
إلى: arabic-vip at icann.org
الموضوع: Re: [arabic-vip] FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant IssuesReport



Dear All (those who speak Arabic),

 

Kindly discuss and finalize how we should proceed.

 

Regards,
Sarmad

 

From: Baher Esmat [mailto:baher.esmat at icann.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 3:31 AM
To: Abdulaziz Zoman; sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk; arabic-vip at icann.org
Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant Issues Report

 

Team:

As the deadline of public comments is approaching (14-Nov) please advise as to where you are on the translation review. If you think the translation we provided can be posted, and comments on translated terminology can be part of the public comments, we can do that. 

Please advise. 

Best,
Baher


On 10/22/11 9:40 AM, "Abdulaziz Zoman" <azoman at citc.gov.sa> wrote:

I just started reading the doc in Arabic … I have the following high level points:
-        Many English terms are still being used (ICANN, IDN, DNS, gTLD, TLD, …) despite the availability of Arabic equivalents

-        The Arabic translation of the "variants" are not accurate: see the following example:

o      مشروع قضايا متغيرات أسماء النطاقات الدولية 

o      قضايا ومتطلبات TLD المتغيرة الخاصة بالخط العربي 

o      تحدد هذه الوثيقة القضايا ذات الصلة بتعريف المتغيرات وإداراتها وتنفيذها على مستوى الجذر 



We use "متشابهات" for variants.
 
In general the translation is readable but unfortunately in many cases misleading, ambiguous, or not accurate.
Example:
1)           العلامات لا تحتاج التقاط الأعراف اللغوية ويمكن معاملتها كسلسلة بدلاً من كلمة لغوية، الأمر الذي يقوض الحجج القائمة على الكلمة.

Hence it needs extensive proof reading.
 

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عبدالعزيز بن حمد الزومان
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman


From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Baher Esmat
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:29 PM
To: sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk; arabic-vip at icann.org
Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant Issues Report

The sooner we can post the translation the better. Public comments period closes on 14-Nov which is not far. 

Regards, 
Baher 
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From: Sarmad Hussain [mailto:sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk] 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:15 PM
To: arabic-vip at icann.org <arabic-vip at icann.org> 
Subject: [arabic-vip] FW: Translation: Arabic Final Draft Variant Issues Report 

Dear All,
 
As discussed, here is the Arabic translation of the document we have developed.  ICANN has requested that we help proof read and finalize the document, as it is technical in nature and as we are perhaps the best people to verify its contents. 

Could those members who speak Arabic language review it and return the redline version.  We look forward to your collaboration in this context. 
 
 
Dear Baher,
 
What are the timelines related to this activity which we should keep in mind?
 
Regards,
Sarmad
 


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