[arabic-vip] URGENT: Response to public comments

Sarmad Hussain sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk
Sun Nov 27 05:45:40 UTC 2011


Dear Dr. Al-Zoman and all,

I totally agree with you that even though different language communities may have different concerns and requirements, it is best to look at a holistic script level view at TLD level.  

Let's talk more on the call today.

Regards,
Sarmad



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Abdulaziz Al-Zoman [mailto:azoman at citc.gov.sa]
>>Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:25 AM
>>To: Dr.Sarmad Hussain; Siavash Shahshahani
>>Cc: arabic-vip at icann.org; Abdulaziz Al-Zoman
>>Subject: RE: [arabic-vip] URGENT: Response to public comments
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>Nice to hear from you again.
>>
>>As I expected and discussed with you during the drafting of the report,
>>the ZWNJ is a problematic to some Arabic Script communities (e.g.,
>>Arabic language speaking community).
>>
>>The comments might come from members of the Arabic language community,
>>but they are related to Arabic script TLDs. As you know TLDs are not
>>treated at the language level but rather script level. Therefore, their
>>concerns are still valid since users see string of Arabic script
>>characters and the ZWNJ (if it is part of the TLD) is invisible to them
>>and most impotently they cannot understand its behavior and cannot coop
>>with it.
>>
>>I would agree with you if TLD is associated with languages not the
>>script.
>>
>>-----------------------------
>>عبدالعزيز بن حمد الزومان
>>Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-
>>bounces at icann.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Dr.Sarmad Hussain
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 5:26 PM
>>> To: Siavash Shahshahani
>>> Cc: arabic-vip at icann.org
>>> Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] URGENT: Response to public comments
>>>
>>> Dear Siavash,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comments.  I understood the comment is referring
>>to
>>> Arabic language as well.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Sarmad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Siavash Shahshahani
>><shahshah at irnic.ir>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Just a brief remark on the comments of T.B.Merghani of Sudan-ISOC
>>and
>>> > Al Marzooqi of TRA-UAE on ZWNJ. In both cases the word 'Arabic' is
>>> > used to refer to Arabic language not Arabic script in general as
>>used
>>> > by different languages. The comments made here were all discussed
>>in
>>> > VIP Arabic Script group quite extensively and I don't see any new
>>> > issues raised. My apologies again as I won't be able to join the
>>call
>>> at 8:00 UTC.
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Siavash
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 25.11.2011 08:46, Siavash Shahshahani wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry, Baher, I'm teaching a class then and won't be able to join.
>>> >> I'll try to send written comments before the meeting.
>>> >> Siavash
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 25.11.2011 01:06, Baher Esmat wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Re: [arabic-vip] URGENT: Response to public comments   Team:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  I’m organizing the call to take place on Sunday at 8am UTC for
>>90
>>> >>> minutes.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Call details will be sent shortly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  If anyone needs a dial out please send me the number.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  Best,
>>> >>>  Baher
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  On 11/24/11 11:55 AM, "Baher Esmat"  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Team:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you have not completed the Doodle poll please take a minute
>>to
>>> >>>> do so: http://www.doodle.com/s3hw9kkpg2siw3kr [1].
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Here is a sample of the analysis document we need to submit by
>>> >>>> 28-Nov:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/report-comments-idn-
>>guideline
>>> >>> s-revision-02sep11-en.pdf
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> [2]. Content of this sample document is NOT related to our
>>project.
>>> >>>> The two sections team is expected to complete are section III
>>> >>>> (summary of comments) and section IV (analysis of comments).
>>Don’t
>>> >>>> worry about the document format, I’ll take care of that.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I’m also re-sending comments submitted (attached). Please try to
>>> >>>> read them before we get on the call.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If any questions let me know.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>> Baher
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Links:
>>> >>> ------
>>> >>> [1] http://www.doodle.com/s3hw9kkpg2siw3kr
>>> >>> [2]
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/report-comments-idn-
>>guideline
>>> >>> s-revision-02sep11-en.pdf [3]
>>> >>> http://chapar1.nic.ir/baher.esmat@icann.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>
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