[arabic-vip] review of comments to Arabic team report

[Fahd Batayneh]

Baher, et All, if I may recall correctly, and since we had not reached to a consensus – as a team – on how to deal with ZWNJ’s (include vs. not include, character vs. control character, secure vs. in-secure), we included a statement in the document proposing to leave this matter to experts as it requires more research.

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From: arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org [mailto:arabic-vip-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Baher Esmat
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:53 PM
To: Abdulaziz Zoman; Behnam Esfahbod
Cc: arabic-vip at icann.org
Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] review of comments to Arabic team report
Importance: High

Team:

I’m still not clear if you want to include more text about ZWNJ in your response to public comments.

Also, there are a couple of comments by Manal, which I have not heard any reaction to.

Please see attached and advise. We’ve already passed the deadline.

Best,
Baher


On 11/29/11 7:59 AM, "Abdulaziz Zoman" <azoman at citc.gov.sa> wrote:
Fare enough … thanks Behnam.


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عبدالعزيز بن حمد الزومان
Abdulaziz H. Al-Zoman


From: behnam at gmail.com [mailto:behnam at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Behnam Esfahbod
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:36 AM
To: Abdulaziz Al-Zoman
Cc: Siavash Shahshahani; arabic-vip at icann.org
Subject: Re: [arabic-vip] review of comments to Arabic team report


Hi,

2011/11/29 Abdulaziz Al-Zoman <azoman at citc.gov.sa>
The (original) statement on the report does not reflect the team viewpoint:

      "ZWNJ is already a CONTEXT character with rules identified (though they need to be extended as proposed)."
This statements may leads to the fact that the CONTEXT rules is resolving all the issues and concerns regarding the use of ZWNJ. Which is not.
So, I added the following statement which is in line with the team's recommendations (hence, I did not list the cons or pros):
       "ZWNJ raises a number of problems to be addressed and resolved before it can be adapted at the TLDs."



That part of the statement only refers to a specific part of the comment by John Klensin (page 7, paragraph 3) where he discusses the Unicode-level problem with defining a "script" and listing the characters in a script.



Thus, I think the problem is that the statement is not clear enough. I suggestion adding a sentence saying that this part "is talking about the using Unicode characters' properties to define the scripts, and DOES NOT concert security and/or usability issues".



Also, "CONTEXT" is technically not defined anywhere in the documents, so we should either use "Contextual Rules" or "CONTEXTJ" (both from RFC 5891) to be more specific.



Thanks,

-Behnam



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