[arabic-vip] Final draft of Arabic Case Study Issues Document (combined with definitions)

Sun Oct 2 06:22:56 UTC 2011

Dear Raed and All,

We can certainly plan a conference call.  To facilitate the call, I would
suggest the following:

1. all of us take some time to develop a list the salient issues they feel
remain un-addressed in the current report and circulate via email to this
group
2. Baher is requested to compile the list from all and circulate a combined
list of issues
3. We schedule a call to discuss them; based on the list of items to be
discussed, the duration of the call can be set (to more than an hour, if
needed)
4. We agree on the final decisions against the items and document to
generate the final report;  where there is no agreement, we document both
sides of argument and leave it there (as we did for ZWNJ).  However, it is
better to document more (vs. less) given a choice, to capture the knowledge
for future discussions.

Baher is requested to consult with the VIP team and set the deadlines for
1-4 above.

regards,
Sarmad

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Raed Al-Fayez <rfayez at citc.gov.sa> wrote:

>  Dear Sarmad,****
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> Thanks for your response ..****
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>
> The mechanism for incorporating or eliminating suggestion and comments are
> not based on a well-defended (from my point of view I consider it as a
> biased mechanism). ****
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>
> For example: when I send an email regarding "Preliminary list for
> technical issues that a registry should consider" that the team asked me
> to do (see my email on Sun 17/7/2011 10:44 AM with the subject "Variants
> implications on registry operations and DNSSEC") many items was deleted
> (in the phone conference and the face-to-face meeting) because they were not
> related to the root registry; Personally I was more than happy with this
> decision because it make sense and the initial request was general for all
> registries; However when I put the same comments on many parts of the
> document it was ignored?! [BTW this is just an example and I have more].**
> **
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> Anyway I also agree with you that we should have a conference call to
> discuss the remaining items. ****
>
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> With best regards,
>
> Raed I. Al-Fayez
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> Senior IT Projects Specialist, M.Sc, PMP
> Saudi Network Information Center (SaudiNIC)
> Communication and Information Technology Commission (CITC)
> Tel: + 966-1-2639235   - Fax: + 966-1-2639393
> http://www.nic.net.sa****
>
> ** **
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> *From:* sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk [mailto:sarmad.hussain at kics.edu.pk] *On
> Behalf Of *Dr.Sarmad Hussain
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 01, 2011 3:31 PM
> *To:* Raed Al-Fayez
> *Cc:* arabic-vip at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [arabic-vip] Final draft of Arabic Case Study Issues
> Document (combined with definitions)****
>
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>
>  Dear Raed,****
>
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>
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>  I am still wondering why many of my comments was not taken into account
> when you revised the document!****
>
>   ****
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>  I have spent lots of effort and time in revising the document and I
> believe my comments should be at least discussed or clarified before
> discarding them.****
>
>   ****
>
> As I wrote earlier, it is not possible to accommodate all comments by
> everybody (as in some cases they may be conflicting; in which case I have
> tried to capture what the general consensus seems to be; though I can
> certainly confirm that I have gone through all the comments from everybody
> carefully in the process).  I am certainly not the final person to make the
> final call and that is why I have requested to kindly raise in email or
> document the points which you feel are essential and still not addressed and
> we can discuss them explicitly.  And if there is need, we can do a
> conference call.****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
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>  BTW I have reordered the table rows in the appendixes based on the code
> point number, and change the naming of many code points to be aligned with
> the Unicode naming, also I have converted many images to tables to make all
> the tables in the same format, and added some extra code points that was not
> covered and I am disappointed when all that effort was ignored!****
>
>  ****
>
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> Don't be disappointed :-)  These are formatting issues and as per our
> arrangement these are left to Mohammed and his team to address in the final
> formatting of the document.  They will also make the spellings consistent
> with Unicode, etc.  I have not addressed any significant formatting issues
> in my re-writing, where my focus has been on re-writing the content.  Of
> course Mohammed is requested to accommodate this.  If there are missing
> content issues, please also point that out and we can adjust.****
>
> ** **
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>  ****
>
>   With best regards,
>
> Raed I. Al-Fayez****
>
>  ** **
>
> ** **
>
> regards,
> Sarmad ****
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