[arabic-vip] Draft Definitions Doc. ver 2.0 05Sep11 ..

[Siavash Shahshahani]

Hi All,
Please find attached what I am taking to be my task from this morning's
telephone call. Actually I really don't see any reason for defining general
registry/DNS/Unicode terms such as delegation, blocking, glyph,...in this
document. As is pointed out in the preamble to ICANN document, they're not
trying to re-invent the wheel. After the cogent explanations by Andrew
Sullivan, I think Manal should be convinced that these terms are already
satisfactorily defined. What you see in the attached document are mainly my
rendering of what Manal did in perhaps a less complicated way and with some
deletions (where I strongly disagreed). I have taken the ICANN document in
the same order it was and provided some editing. Additions are in red;
highlighted passages and Notes in shades of green are clearly noted. A
couple of remarks:
1. An important item missing and especially necessary for Arabic script is
the further splitting of a character into four cases (initial, medial,
terminal and isolated) to fine-tune the locating of variants. 
2. The constant reference to 'language', as in 'language table' or
'language variant table' in the original document is a confusing legacy of
the past and should be abandoned. I suggested elsewhere 'TLD Table' since 
each proposed TLD must provide a character table of its permissible code
points.
Regard,
Siavash
 

On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:12:48 +0200, "Manal Ismail" <manal at tra.gov.eg>
wrote:
> Dear All ..
> 
> Please find attached a first cut of the definitions document .. It is
> based on the updated document posted at:
> https://community.icann.org/display/VIP/Resources+for+All+Cases where I
> tried to use as much of the already defined terms as possible .. It's
> worth noting that the definitions attached are not ordered
> alphabetically as we tried to order them thematically hoping that this
> would make it easier to follow and understand ..
> 
> I do apologize as the draft looks a bit crowded .. It contains some
> pending questions and remarks from Sarmad and me that I thought would be
> better to leave as they provide some clarification on the reasoning
> behind the suggested changes and some food for thought to kick off the
> discussion .. 
> 
> Here is the key to the document :) :
> - Definitions from the original document that hold to the Arabic Script
> case study are in normal 'Black' text
> 
> - Definitions from the original document that do not hold and are not
> needed for the Arabic Script case are stroked through with no
> alternative suggestion ..
> 
> - Definitions from the original document that do not hold as is but are
> needed for the Arabic Script case are highlighted in 'Grey' and marked
> by an '*' .. Since it was advised by the doc. creators not to change any
> of the definitions but suggest new ones, alternative definitions are
> suggested in a separate following definition in 'Blue'.. I temporarily
> added '- Arabic Script' to each 'Term' until we agree how to proceed ..
> 
> - Definitions of terms that have been discussed but are not in the
> original document are introduced in 'Red' .. I have not put much effort
> yet in accurately defining those terms until we agree on whether we need
> them or not and agree that the inserted sentence(s) describes our common
> understanding of those terms .. 
> 
> On another note, in the context of definitions, I have the following
> general questions:
> - I'm not sure when to use 'String' vs. 'Label'
> - I'm not sure whether 'Delegated' means the same thing as 'Registered'
> and whether 'Allocated' means the same thing as 'Reserved' 
> - I'm not sure how the language table would look like .. is it a
> 2-column table, one for the 'Valid Code Points' of the language and the
> other for its 'Character Variants, if any ? and do we agree to have it
> called 'Language Variant Table'? Do we have more than one type of
> Tables? 
>  
> Appreciate your feedback and apologies for asking so many questions
> rather than providing answers .. 
> I hope you'll have the time to think those questions over and go through
> the document thoroughly ..
> Looking forward to a fruitful discussion online and ultimately in our
> upcoming f-2-f meeting in Doha .. 
> 
> Kind Regards
>  
> --Manal
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