[bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms Negotiations
Liz Williams
lizawilliams at mac.com
Thu Oct 29 21:18:09 UTC 2009
support Mikey's position -- the way you're doing it is the way forward!
On 29 Oct 2009, at 17:04, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> you've got my support. keep at it Zahid. this is precisely the
> kind of behavior we need if we're to break out of the "old habits,
> old fights" mindset that so clogs the arteries of ICANN.
>
> mikey
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Zahid Jamil wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Met with ALAC reps today for an hour before the STI meeting. We
>> found common ground on nearly all essential BC positions.
>> (facilitated by Alan – ALAC Liaison).
>>
>> The actual STI meeting took place in a very conducive atmosphere.
>> The unreasonably short time line set by the Board was discussed.
>> My feeling is we may have spent too much time on process (40
>> mins). Jeff Neuman, Jon Nevett and I voiced our desire to get on
>> with the substantive discussions. Issues were listed and it was
>> decided that we would focus on them in our discussions over calls.
>> The group has asked staff to provide information on whether there
>> will be support available for a face to face meeting as several
>> members feel some of these issues may not be solvable otherwise.
>> After the meeting I spent an hour with NCSG and ALAC. We seem to
>> have common ground on several of the essential BC positions. NCSG
>> requested these not be discussed publicly yet. They are also
>> attempting to see if I can meet with Wendy tomorrow (she as absent
>> due to her Board meetings). The meeting with her will probably be
>> important in ensuring that the common ground seemingly achieved is
>> maintained.
>>
>> One issue that Registrar and Registry reps did not support was the
>> notion of a post launch IP Claims service. However, this is on the
>> issues listed to be discussed.
>>
>> On another note my sense is that my outreach and attempts to
>> discuss matters with ALAC and NCSG does not seem to attract any
>> support (in fact in some respects I sense the opposite). This is a
>> cause for concern.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Zahid Jamil
>> Barrister-at-law
>> Jamil & Jamil
>> Barristers-at-law
>> 219-221 Central Hotel Annexe
>> Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
>> Cell: +923008238230
>> Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025
>> Fax: +92 21 5655026
>> www.jamilandjamil.com
>>
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>> From: owner-bc-gnso at icann.org [mailto:owner-bc-gnso at icann.org] On
>> Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:14 AM
>> To: 'bc - GNSO list'
>> Subject: [bc-gnso] Update on TM Rights Protection Mechanisms
>> Negotiations
>>
>> Today the 3 days of off line negotiations and reaching out to the
>> ALAC and NCSG on the issue of the IRT Report and the RPMs were
>> successful.
>>
>> 3 hours of discussion (with the help of the ALAC- Alan and Cheryl)
>> on Monday with NCSG reps (Kathryn Kleiman and Konstantinos
>> Komaitis) followed by discussions through yesterday were successful
>> in providing background and a context to the BC position on the IRT
>> Report.
>>
>> Initially on the Council list the NCSG had indicated and
>> unwillingness of the IRT being available as a resource.
>>
>> Summary of points for discussion that were discussed were (subject
>> to them being taken back to the NCSG):
>>
>> Welcome the IRT and other resources being available to the GNSO
>> Working Group working on the Board’s letter regarding the RPMs (ie.
>> STI review team).
>>
>> At the session on Thursday (today) express the willingness that
>> NCSG had for reaching out constructively to the GNSO community
>> (language discussed included reaching common ground).
>>
>> The GNSO passed a Resolution today with the support of the NCSG
>> stating:
>> The assistance of members of the IRT in answering questions about
>> the IP Clearinghouse and Uniform Rapid Suspension System
>> recommendations may be useful to this work. The GNSO Council
>> requests that members of the IRT who worked on those
>> recommendations be available to answer any such questions that may
>> arise;
>>
>> I believe that possibly a more integral part than the discussion
>> with Kathy in achieving this was the efforts of members from other
>> Constituency(s) that may have helped mediate this resolution through.
>>
>>
>> In today’s session on Trademark Protection and new gTLDs
>> (transcript attached):
>>
>> Kathy responded positively and at the end of her first intervention
>> stated:
>>
>> ‘....we in the NCUC want to work with you. We want to establish
>> common ground, and we wish the best of luck for all of us in this
>> expedited process.’
>>
>> She even went as far as saying in regards the IRT URS
>> recommendation for Appeal:
>>
>> ‘.....and I have to say it, and I guess I'm on the record, the IRT
>> kind of got this one right and let's go back to that.’
>>
>> This was met with equal good will by CSG members:
>>
>> J. Scott, now President of the IPC said:
>>
>> ‘I worked with Kathy Kleiman, and we drafted the UDRP final version
>> with Louis Touton and a group of other talented people, many of
>> whom are here today................We just want to solve a
>> problem. That's what we're here to do. We want to work with
>> registries, registrars, NCUC. That's what we're here for. We're
>> problem solvers. We want to solve the problem. Thank you for the
>> opportunity, and we look forward to working together in the near
>> future.
>>
>> Zahid Jamil BC Councillor said:
>>
>> ‘First of all, I would like to acknowledge and thank Kathy for the
>> NCUC's constructive invitation to work with goodwill.
>> We look forward to the sentiment continuing in the GNSO. So thank
>> you for that..........’
>>
>> With respect to several aspects of the IRT Solutions it seems that
>> NCSG and BC may be able to find common ground.
>>
>> I am sure there must have been much discussion in the NCSG itself
>> about taking these positions after discussing matters with the BC
>> and other individuals. So Kudos to Kathy and Kostantino for
>> achieving success for not letting down our discussions from Monday
>> for which I have thanked them.
>>
>> Efforts of Alan and Cheryl to set up some of the atmosphere for the
>> interaction also helped.
>>
>> Also in other private discussions this evening with some ALAC reps
>> it seems that there may be even more common ground possible with
>> the BC positions.
>>
>> This sentiment seems to have created an atmosphere which may enable
>> some parties with divergent views reaching consensus on some
>> aspects at least. I hope this interaction will also help BC, NCSG
>> and ALAC collaborating on other issues in the future.
>>
>> Through private meetings tomorrow leading up to the STI session I
>> hope this sentiment continues.
>>
>> Will report back after tomorrows STI meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Zahid Jamil
>> Barrister-at-law
>> Jamil & Jamil
>> Barristers-at-law
>> 219-221 Central Hotel Annexe
>> Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
>> Cell: +923008238230
>> Tel: +92 21 5680760 / 5685276 / 5655025
>> Fax: +92 21 5655026
>> www.jamilandjamil.com
>>
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