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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Today we filed the attached comment
</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">on the Phase 2 Initial Report of the EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/phase-2-initial-report-of-the-epdp-on-internationalized-domain-names-11-04-2024">link</a>
to comment page</span>). <span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks to Ching Chiao for drafting.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 5/13/24, 10:35<span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span>PM, "Bc-private" <bc-private-bounces@icann.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">BC members,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks to Ching Chiao for drafting a BC comment (<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-iEoe3Mc3ReZH5W5U_cX-MSsS3a3eKNuMoiNnpQH1sY/edit">here</a> and attached) on Phase 2 Initial Report
of the EPDP on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs) (<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/proceeding/phase-2-initial-report-of-the-epdp-on-internationalized-domain-names-11-04-2024">link</a> to comment page</span>). Thanks to Hafiz Farooq for
volunteering as well. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">Here’s a summary of the draft:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">BC is in full support of the wider IDN.IDN adoption with the proper and orderly introduction of the variant domain names at the top and second levels.
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">BC welcomes the IDN EPDP Team’s consistency on the “Same Entity” and “Conservatism” principles. We are glad to learn that the “Same Entity” principle is expanded as “same registrant, same registrar”
which we’ve proposed in our previous comment on the Phase 1 report. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">The BC is however concerned that the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>EPDP Team chose not to
provide a clear recommendation to one key fundamental question in its draft report. The question is: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">Is an<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>variant
domain a newly created, separated domain from its source<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>domain?</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F"> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">From BC’s viewpoint, we understand the current industry practice as the following definition in sequence: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="outlook-search-highlight"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">IDN</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> (text) domain is equivalent
to its XN-- . XN-- ( punycode) domain based on <span class="outlook-search-highlight">
IDN</span>A standards / <span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> Guideline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">For example, the Chinese
<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> (text) “</span><span style="font-family:"PingFang TC",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">亚马逊</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">.</span><span style="font-family:"PingFang TC",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">购</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">物</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">”
is converted to “xn--jlq480n2rg.xn--g2xx48c” in the DNS for actual domain resolution. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span class="outlook-search-highlight"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">IDN</span></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>
<u>variant</u> (text) domain is equivalent to its <span class="outlook-search-highlight">
IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> <u>source</u> (text) domain as defined by the
<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> language table maintained by the corresponding TLD registry (and approved by ICANN) as well as ICANN’s Root Zone LGR.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">For example, “</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">亞馬遜</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">.</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">購物</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">”
(punycode “xn--nlqs61nl3f.xn--g2xv08c”)is the Traditional Chinese <span class="outlook-search-highlight">
IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> variant of the source
<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span> ““</span><span style="font-family:"PingFang TC",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">亚马逊</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">.</span><span style="font-family:"PingFang TC",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">购</span><span style="font-family:"MS Mincho";color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">物</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F;background:yellow">”
domain in Simplified Chinese. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">Therefore, if 1 and 2 must co-exist, it means that the<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>variant
domain is not a separable, independent domain name registration from its source domain.
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">Any existing and future variant domain name is in a parent-child relationship to its source domain. An<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>variant.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>variantTLD
domain names are generated / auto-generated by the TLD registry as derivative options to the same entity, and the variant or the variant set should not be independently created utilizing “EPP-create” transaction.
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F1F1F">Since activation of an<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span>.<span class="outlook-search-highlight">IDN</span><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>variant
domain is not considered as a new-create, <span style="background:yellow">the registry / registrar therefore should not charge additional fee to its user.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;background:yellow">Comments close 21-May, so please bring up your questions and suggestions on our 16-May call, or on-list before 20-May.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thanks again to Ching for drafting.
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