[Capacity-Building-WG] Survey

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Tue Sep 24 01:46:29 UTC 2013


Well since Wolf has been persuaded, merge it then.

Sala


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Wolf Ludwig
<wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> as some of you may recall, I was originally against merging these surveys
> and outlined my arguments before. In the meantime, there were some strong
> arguments for merging them brought forward by Tijani and others and I noted
> that under the given circumstances (narrow timing, avoiding confusion etc.)
> it might be a sort of "best" solution, if it's properly done and explained
> / communicated. And I think that this solution will find a broad majority
> among the two sub-groups.
>
> As said before, I have very limited Internet access this week here in
> Lisbon and I cannot assure my availability for tomorrow's call. From the
> ATLAS II Survey sub-group there is a good *revised draft* from Dharma on
> the table what should be discussed as the input from our side.
>
> Wish you all the best for your call.
> Regards,
> Wolf
>
>
> Joly MacFie wrote Mon, 23 Sep 2013 03:52:
> >Hi Sala,
> >
> >There was a pretty clear consensus for merge on the recent call. I don't
> >think anyone was contemplating reducing questions, as much as 1) avoiding
> >having to fill out the same info twice, and 2) optimizing participation.
> >
> >In the latter interest there was anecdotal evidence of the efficacy (in
> the
> >recent NARALO ROP vote) of single-minded and persistent repeated reminders
> >from both staff and regional leaders - an effort that would not bear
> >repeating in the short term.
> >
> >I think most were aware of your position and arguments, as you did make
> >them forcefully earlier.
> >
> >joly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <
> >salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Tijani,
> >>
> >> For the many reasons shared in Durban, I feel that the Survey should not
> >> be merged. The Capacity Building Survey is for the long term capacity
> >> building of the At Large and not limited to the Summit. Secondly, the
> >> people attending the Summit are just one or two people from the ALS.
> >>
> >> However, the type of feedback and respondents of the capacity building
> >> survey are not just ALSes but also more importantly, the view of those
> >> (individuals) within ALSes that participate in the At Large or ICANN
> >> processes.
> >>
> >> There has been work done for months in cleaning up up the data in
> relation
> >> to the ALS as far as contact details are concerned which is the
> >> responsibility of the RALO Secretariat and the ALS to constantly update.
> >> There has been in the past inconsistent recording by Staff but this was
> >> picked up by the working group in the cleaning up process and
> highlighted
> >> to staff.
> >>
> >> The Capacity Building Survey has a specific objective and merging the
> >> ATLAS Survey will not help us fulfill our quest if we reduce our
> questions
> >> to cater for the ATLAS.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Sala
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Sep 22, 2013, at 12:15 AM, "Tijani BENJEMAA" <
> tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Dear all,****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I proposed to Wolf to merge the ATLAS II and the Capacity Building
> surveys
> >> for the following reasons:****
> >>
> >> ·        Both surveys are urgent since both are needed for the Summit
> II *
> >> ***
> >>
> >> ·        If not merged, they will be distributed in the same period,
> >> which will produce a confusion and may lead to inconsistent answers or
> very
> >> few ALSes responding ****
> >>
> >> ·        The only disadvantage of merging them is that it will result in
> >> a very long survey that may discourage the ALSes to go through it.****
> >>
> >> ·        The proposal is to conceive a survey of 3 parts:****
> >>
> >> o   Section 1: ALS Details****
> >>
> >> o   Section 2: Part dedicated to ATLAS II WG****
> >>
> >> o   Section 3: Part dedicated to Capacity Building WG****
> >>
> >> ·        Section 1 will be very short to provide up to date contacts and
> >> languages used****
> >>
> >> ·        Section 2 will be finalized by the ATLAS II survey
> sub-group****
> >>
> >> ·        Section 3 will be a very short part for Capacity Building****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> To make things practical, I’m proposing in the attached file:****
> >>
> >> ·        What the CB WG thinks it could be section 1****
> >>
> >> ·        Section 3 as shortened by a small team in the CB WG (Dev,
> Carlos
> >> and myself).****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> I want to remind you that for the ATLAS II summit, the ALSes need to be
> >> prepared for an effective and efficient participation, and the CBWG is
> in
> >> charge of such preparation. That’s why the CBWG needs this section of
> the
> >> survey.****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ****
> >>
> >> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
> >>
> >> Executive Director****
> >>
> >> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)****
> >>
> >> Phone:  + 216 41 649 605****
> >>
> >> Mobile: + 216 98 330 114****
> >>
> >> Fax:       + 216 70 853 376****
> >>
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> ****
> >>
> >>  ****
> >>
> >> ** **
> >>
> >>   ****
> >>
> >> <Survey_CB section_Draft.docx>
> >>
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